NO! to Cousins and Jimmy G! Either would cost an arm and a leg and hurt us in being able to get the additional talent we need. And it's not like we're close to getting to a SB. Beyond all that, I don't think Garappolo is cinch. I would so much rather have Mahomes or Watson on this team than either of them, and it's quite possible we can find a QB at least as good as them, if not better, in this draft.
Yes, that will be the true test. I don't care what their record is, as long as they don't quit and continue to improve.
Are you saying that Petty isn't capable of running - and running well - this offense? Because that would be the only reason to not play him over McCown. Even if he can only run it as well as McCown, he needs to be starting, otherwise what are they doing? DO they really think that McCown will lead them to the Promised Land?
We could, theoretically, draft all busts next year. Under your logic, we should trade away all our draft picks and not select anyone. I mean, we can't be certain that any one pick will be successful. Now, what anyone using correct logic realizes instinctively is that what you should do is try to place yourself in a position where you maximize your likelihood to attain your goal. In this instance, the goal is to draft a HOF quarterback and the way to maximize the likelihood of attaining this goal is by having the #1 pick overall in the draft (and the ability to select any player available this year).
Now that just isn't true, you can go 0-16 and lose every game by a score, let's say 28-24, you could say that our offence is doing okay but maybe the defence could be doing better shipping 28 points every week etc, or the opposite in a low scoring game the defence is doing well but offence is missing. Or how about a running back clearing 100 yards every game but losing, that is still a part, it may be a small cog but a part for the future nonetheless. Right from the start I would have prefered us to lose but whilst losing showing what we have done in the last couple of games, as this does show we have something for the future, a nice draft pick and some decent selections and you know our rebuild may not need to be a very long one after all, which will be very good indeed, as it is okay to shout for them to lose in the week and on these kind of threads but it isn't as easy during game time and not when they are busting 60+ yard plays
What the fuck. Where did you learn logic from? Or is it reading comprehension? I don't know which is worse in your case.
If you check my posts you will clearly see I was way against bringing back Fitz and not playing Petty this year. I'm totally against playing McCown and repeate my anger on every thread. So from that point of view I'm with you 1000%. My reference to you was in regards to the Giants. Unless I misread it, You implied they were approaching it as a tanking effort to replace Manning. That could not be further from the truth from my view point. IMHO They went out on a last ditch effort to improve the team for a run at The playoffs. Unfortunately for them They are laying a major egg and getting zero help so far from Marshall. If they actually do get the first pick it would be because of shear incompetence and luck. Of course, they will probably target the QB we have in our radar screen.
And the difference is, that when a deep ball needs to be thrown, Petty can do that better than McCown.
Watched the Rams, we should be striving to get on that level. Great young team. As if I wasn't angry enough about McCown getting 100% play time, now I'm even angrier after I've seen how good a young team can be. They showed so much poise and courage, Goff didn't even throw an interception despite all that pressure throughout the game. But noooo, we have to play a 38 year old.
No I think you could read between the lines. This was suppose to be a year to evaluate hackenberg and THEN maybe Petty. With the quick 2-2 start you want to keep the continuity but once McCown starts to revert back to a pumpkin, Petty will get his time. I don't think it was they thought they had a chance to win. It was just to bide time for Hack, but Hack has showed he needs more time and Petty needs an opportunity because he played well in preseason.
They have last year's number one overall pick, Jared Goff. You're comparing him to a 4th rounder from two years ago that a lot of people doubted could ever play a pro style offense. Not a great post.
AS long as this team's progresses as it has the last two weeks , TB will be coaching this team. Woody stated that and so did Chris.... I was hopeful the young guys would bring a good attitude and play hard and they are doing just that. Now they just need to continue to trust each other and play disciplined, smart FB.
I know Goff was nr.1. So I shouldn't compare Goff to Prescott then, since Prescott is a 4th rounder? That's not the point though, the point is that the Rams seem to have confidence in their players. And I don't really care what ''people'' think about players, because ''people'' have been proven wrong countless times.
"People" have also been proven right numerous times. It's week 5. If you thought McCown was going to be hitting the bench already, that's on you. If you don't understand why, that's also on you. If you don't understand why sitting at 2-2 while seeing a lot of promising stuff from young guys... then stop watching football.
Well I still think they should play Petty now. Even if McCown plays over his head - like Fitz did - he isn't going to take them to playoffs, let alone the SB. Meanwhile, each game he wins for them puts them farther back draft-wise. If McCown was the long term answer, I would be okay with that, but he isn't. So really, there is no advantage, other than padding Bowles's resume, for playing McCown over Petty.
Oh excuse me mr. profound insight. It's simple really, McCown will get us a couple of more wins, you could also argue those wins will have a certain effect on team morale, etc. Then lo and behold, the Bengals, Bears and 49ers are so bad that they get the top picks. We get a ''4th rounder'', even though ''people'' say there are a lot of decent QBs in the draft. Oh but we're the Jets, we get a Sanchez 2.0. Now what? A 39 year old? 2 backups who've seen no relevant playing time? Then you can spend another year whining about tanking on the forum.
For starters I'm not whining about tanking. I don't think tanking is even a real thing to whine about because no NFL coach, player, GM, etc. is EVER going to try and lose games. Tanking is something made up by fans, and it's something that I don't want to do. I can't even remember what thread I said it in, but you need to build a car to win. If you tank, that means you have no parts of the car. You get one at the end, but you don't even know if it's going to work and you still have no other parts to the car. McCown starting was always a piece of the car that was important. He was never going to NOT start because throwing two young and inexperienced QBs into the fire does no good for anyone. McCown plays the role perfectly and because of that, there are opportunities for guys like Powell and McGuire. The playbook is catered towards guys like Anderson and ASJ and Kearse. You build confidence, which only makes your team better. You think anyone worthwhile is taking any of our $80 mil if we are terrible just because we'll have a rookie QB who might be really good? Probably not. It's a whole lot more likely that someone finds the situation we are heading towards way more attractive. And McCown is part of that... always was. Our GM played it right.
All your points are valid, I don't disagree with you. I am, however, concerned. Because you can argue that no FAs are gonna want to join a team with a 39 year old QB and a ''not top pick'' rookie QB and 2 other QBs who've had little or no playing time. I've also said somewhere else that FA prospects take a lot of factors into consideration. I think McCown is a magnet for mediocre veteran FAs who want to play it safe and I think playing young QBs more sends a different message. One could also argue that confidence can evaporate quite quickly if it turns out we have not developed our young QBs and we don't have an elite one from the draft. I'm very pessimistic about the draft because a fair number of teams simply suck and we're better than them. McCown jump starts the car, but he will have to be replaced. If the next QB can't jump start it, does it really matter how much mileage the rest of the car has had in past? It doesn't because the car can't work anymore. This way, we are absolutely boned if the draft doesn't give us a QB who can be thrown into fire right away and we don't have all the bases covered.
All fair concerns, but when it's all laid out, which would you rather have? I go with the established pros and a full wallet.
