Well, that was also inevitable but . . . haha, hehe. I voted for Trump, btw. Mostly because I like the theatre. . . especially Grand Guignol. I'm totally serious. I voted for Trump, and I'd probably do it again. I knew what I was in for, and man, did he deliver. His buffoonery makes me happy because sometimes I just can't believe it. The highest office in the land is held by a 71 year old teenaged girl. I couldn't have asked for more. The only thing missing is him slamming his bedroom door and screeching, "No-one understands me!" Oh, followed by the W sign across the forehead. I'd be interested to know in his case if it means whatever or winning. Winning. Probably that. I initially started posting something about responsible gun ownership, but I stopped because I was boring myself comatose. I believe in gun ownership, but that comes with caveats. Stringent background checks and heavy vetting is sorely lacking on a state by state basis, which is the main problem IMO. If you apply for a gun license, it should be mandatory that you sign consent over whether you were ever 5150'd. Now I know a lot of people would object to that, but HIPAA is full of shit, anyway. Believe me, I know.
I've never understood the desire to punish lawful gun owners because of people who don't follow the law. How many gun murders are there in Newark, NYC Chicago and Baltimore ? All in dark blue states. What about Oakland in the people's republic of California ? This should be a wake up call for more law and order, more police and more border and immigration security if we're really serious about controlling these types of weapons and these violent incidents We should be thankful to have a 2nd Amendment on a day like today not trying to undermine it
ISIS claims everything. As I said earlier, Vegas was being pushed as a target by them some months ago, but I'm just feeling crazy deluded a-hole on this. No clue if Paddock was ever in the military, but he knew what he was doing as far as doctoring his weapons. I'm quite sure his weapons were legally owned and he did the rest himself.
Also we can't "control" the drug trade or people pouring over our borders without consequence. What makes anyone think we can "control" guns. To legally own weapons there's more than enough red tape. There's also a multitude of ways to kill many people aside from guns; bombs, cars, explosives, fire etc. for gods sake the 9/11 attack began when the hikackers took over planes with box cutters.
anybody know what kind of rifle this guy used? Looking at the pictures, the range looked to be a bit beyond what's considered effective for a AR-15. I'm assuming this guy modded his rifle to full auto. .308 maybe? He was on the 32nd floor, firing down on a crowd perhaps a .25 mile away.
Couldn't even watch that video . My daughter just went to the fest when it was here in sc. rented a place with a bunch of friends. I can't even imagine . It's so unfair. it was definitely planned. My daughter was at the one here in sc . Hotel rooms had to be booked months and months in advance due to capacity.
It IS mandatory. They won't sell you a firearm unless you answer all the questions on the application. If you answer "YES" to the mental illness question, they won't sell.
Why are liberals so gung ho on limiting guns but they range from soft to fully against drastic measures to secure the border ?? Why do they continually attack and undermine our defense cells aka our police and military ?
No reports on that yet but one can do that with an AR-15 variant as well. Its effective range is about 300 yards but one doesn't need precision when shooting at a huge crowd of people.
Petro, that looked like more than 300yds. He was on the 32nd floor and maybe a 1/4 mile out. I remember qualifying at 300yds with a M16-A1. Maybe he had an old school M16 like what we were issued back in the day. Edit: Just saw another angle and you're right, you can absolutely do that kinda damage with a modified AR-15. they're calling it 1700ft from the window to the concert.
Yes, but effective range means that the weapon in question can consistently hit the intended target at that range. It can kill much much farther. Like for instance, there's a video on youtube of guys shooting a Ruger 10/22 (effective range 100 yards) where they penetrate a half inch plywood board at 450 yards
Oy, mincing. MOST people would never answer yes if so, but even if you answer no, it should be mandatory that your ANSWER is verified by the licensing state, because people, ya know, LIE. If you apply for a gun, you forfeit your mental health history and it SHOULD be followed up on with due diligence. I'm vehemently for legal gun ownership, and just because someone passes the smell test doesn't mean they won't flip out. However, putting a gun in the hands of someone who talks to themselves incessantly without checking if they talk to themselves incessantly is kind of a no brainer. I don't know what's so hard about that as far as issuing a gun license. Time? Resources? Laziness? Most Sheriffs have the internet, and they can track if you're taking a crap, so what's the problem on this specific point? Do agree with Jules on the idea that demonizing responsible legal gun owners is foppish.
I'm sure that this has nothing to do with the liberal media and liberals themselves perpetuating the notion that Trump supporters are Nazis, and that punching a Nazi is ok. If punching a Nazi is ok, murdering hundreds of them must be ok too. He clearly intended to kill hundreds of people. If you believe that guns are the problem, your logic would also mean that the statement above is also true.
What a horrible tragedy. Just saw them interview the brother. He was dumbfounded but also goofy and sort of laughing it off. Makes you want to smack the smirk off the guys face. Professor of Criminology made a good point on CNN. Stop mentioning that this is the worst, deadliest, bloodiest, etc. shooting in history. Records are meant to be broken and this will motivate people to try to do so. Also. It's only a matter of time before someone blames Trump for this.
People don't care about this. They love taking a tragedy and using it to advance an agenda, logic be damned. I'd pray for the victims and their families but there is no god. The world is full of scumbags. That will never change.
