Well, the Giant FO actually knows what they're doing..They know time is running out on the Eli Era. The Jets OTOH, count on ancient QB's to play above their level. So very Jetsy..
yeah Eli's playing terrible on purpose so Darnold can take his job next season and he can do more Dunkin commercials or a TV gig with Peyton...get the fuck outta here haha
This would just be a thousand times better and more worth celebrating if it was with Petty. There would hardly be any complaining about us screwing up getting a top pick if it were the young quarterback winning these games. And I completely get why everyone's annoyed.
And that would be okay too, since they'd know that they need to get a new QB and might be in position to get a good one.
No, they'll just break the one part of their team that is already terrible. Their offensive line sucks. So they'll sign one or two even worse offensive linemen than they already have off the street ... plug them in under the guise of "we're doing anything we can to try and improve" and then watch as the team gets 20 rushing yards every game and Eli runs for his life. Then they'll fire McAdoo, draft a franchise QB with their Top 3 pick, and use the rest of the draft to rebuild the offensive line. Meanwhile, the Jets will draft a cornerback in the first round with the 7th pick overall, draft the 5th or 6th highest rated quarterback in the 2nd round (as a project) ... and four years from now we'll be asking why the Giants always compete for a championship and the Jets can't find a franchise quarterback. It's been that way for 30 years; why should it change now?
For Pete sake, are we going to pollute every single tread on a hard earned win with the usual tanking BS comments. All the nonsense about tanking is getting old. No team in the NFL is purposely doing that. No player with a hope for a career will play below his potential. The kids want to win now and so they should. The notion that a team front office has intentionally developed a plan to guarantee tanking is the biggest pipedream ever. Rebuilding causes you to take risks on younger, inexperienced players which results in a lesser record. But that does not mean tanking. In fact for the Jets, every single veteran we let go is doing absolutely nothing. We are much better off without them, and its showing on the field. To deny the fact that this year draft is showing some tremendous potential is also insane. Give credit where credit is due. No one denies the need for a FQB. But that does not preclude this team from playing hard and trying to win. Getting the franchise QB is as much luck and timing as anything else. The real issue here and the fatal flaw for us is why we are playing McCown. We must be true to form and see what we have with Petty. If he wins behind center we draft BPA on the offensive side of the ball. If that is a QB so be it. If he stinks, well all the tankers get their wish for a QB. Only to immediately bitch about the fact that we drafted the wrong QB once again.
You know, the right way to rebuild always starts from tanking for that #1 overall pick. If you get a meaningless win like this, that entire season is lost, so try tanking next year. Until when? Until you get that coveted #1 pick overall. What if you draft a bust, a la Jamarcus Russell? You repeat tanking. Until you find that elusive franchise QB. Make no mistake here. One meaningless win means a lost season. If you are going to tank, you've gotta tank right. [If this sounds like a recipe for a disaster, you are right - maybe not quite for deluded morons, but they are on their own mental haven, so what can I say?]
What I don't get is this: What do you want them to do?!? You're not gonna get a room full of 53 guys and a coaching staff to just throw a game. So you're pissed off they won a 'meaningless game'. I get it. But what exactly was the alternative? How exactly do you 'force them to lose to be in a position to take a QB'? This is not a choice. They're not gonna lose on purpose. So what the F do you want?!? Complaining about something they have no control over is asinine. They were gonna lose or win today regardless of whether or not it pleases you or presents a great plan for the future. They won. Period. So you can enjoy the young guys growing or complain about... WHAT?!? They're not gonna lose on purpose. It wasn't THIS... or they lay down and lose for the greater good. That will never ever happen. For the love of fuck. Management tried their best to 'Major League' this team (the youngers may have to look that movie up ;-) ) and so far theyre fucking over management they way they did in that film. You can only do so much. They stripped them of talent. What else can do they do? Unless you want them to forfeit befor the game, you can't be mad that they won... what else are they gonna try to do? I swear to God, I feel like I'm in the Twilight zone.
The funniest thing about this Herm clip is Herm NEVER played to win. He always played not to lose, which is why he was a bad head coach.
So this is pretty much what we've been hoping for: young, hungry, players, showing they have the talent and ability to play competitive football, and a HC who can make good decisions. I didn't get to see the game, but from what I gather Bowles did okay, if not great, so that's growth and maybe he'll turn out better than I thought..I'm willing to admit being wrong if he turns out to be a good coach, but I'll reserve judgment for now. I had said previously that the "best case" would be for the Jets to play competitively but lose most of their games, going 3-12, 2-14 to get the top 1 or 2 picks, but when the Jags closed to three, I found myself watching the NFL.com page hoping the Jets could somehow hold them, and then when it went to OT, hoping the Jets could pull it out, so I guess I really want them to win regardless of draft position. Logically that's a dumb choice, but if logic ruled, I would've quit being a Jets fan long ago. I'm just going to go with the flow and hope they continue to improve, but it sure would be great if they would play Petty! I'd rather they lose with Petty - not tank - than win with McCown.
Actually, play Petty, but play Hackenberg is the second choice. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? NO ONE who has half a brain is saying that the players should try to lose. NO ONE who has half a brain is saying that the coaches should make in-game decisions that are designed to lose a particular game. EVERYONE thinks that the good play of people like Adams, Maye, Powell, McGuire, etc., etc., is a good thing (even people with less than half a brain). What we are saying is that by playing McCown the Jets are deliberately choosing to not gain any information about the most glaring weakness on the team. Since there is no way that the Jets are making the playoffs this season that is not in the best interests of the team, and someone in authority needs to force the issue and demand that McCown sit down. It would normally be the general manager or head of football operations who does that.
