To those calling for Chad's head, think about this

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  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    exactly. this was supposed to be a rebuilding yeah right? so lets fuckin rebuild the very questionable qb position
     
  2. york61

    york61 Well-Known Member

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    Start Clemens

    You guys are dillllusional if you think we are going to the playoffs or if so far into it. We wouldn't have one home field game. That being said, it makes sense to start Clemens. Look, I'm all for the Chad comeback but let's face it the guy's arm is shot. I can throw the ball, CBs are creeping up on the lines and now are just watching for the little dink and dunks. If you notice a theme with all the Offensive Coordinators the Jet's have add under Chad, they never open up the passing game because they can't. A typical Chad game is 1 or 2 picks 130 yards. Yeah, we are gonna go far with Stats like that.

    Also, we have too many wholes to fix to think about going anywhere in the playoffs. In fact, I would prefer Clemens play and we finish like 7 and 9 so we can get a better draft pick. This season has been setup by a weak schedule and really doesn't show how bad the jets are.

    As for Clemens, I heard that he throws darts, is tough and smart. It's time to make the change. I'm just worried that we are going to stay with Chad because of his likable personality. Personally, I'm tired of loosing. Been a Jet Fan since 68 which is a long time.
     
  3. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    Any "fan" who roots for his team to lose so they can land a better draft pick is no fan at all....
    Not to mention that those losses to Clemens will certainly serve to improve his on-field performance and ego...

    Dumb......................
     
  4. EcKo151

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    So what? You'd rather start Clemens, miss a possible chance at the playoffs just so you can see what we have in Clemens for 2007?

    Who knows what the Jets would or wouldn't do in the playoffs, if they get there, so the Jets wouldn't have a home field game, I mean come on. Because the Jets wouldn't have a home game it wouldn't matter to you if the Jets made the playoffs or not? Pathetic.
     
  5. york61

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    How long have you guys been fans so don't tell me I'm not a fan because I want to change QBs. We can't stop the run, still are adjusting to a 3 4, we don't even know if our kicker is any good. I can go on and on. The fact remains this was suppose to be a rebuilding year. I think we are at the botom in every category on defense and offense. Yeah, will go far in the playoffs. And yes homefield does matter in the playoffs. Tell me how many teams have gone on to advance without at least one or two home games. As for the QB switch, Dallas seems to be doing OK under Romo, Rivers is having a great year and if memory serves me correct Big Ben started his first year out of College. The point is WE ARE GOING NOWHERE WITH CHAD. Chad can't throw the fucking ball get it? If you can't get the ball two your wide outs for more than 20 yards, then the defenses make adjustments and stop your short game. You guys are idiots that want Chad at the helm. Stop thinking tactical and think strategic, build for the future.
     
  6. EcKo151

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    Ask Pittsburgh if home-field mattered last year, and Baltimore in their SB year. Ask Indianaplois if having home-field has helped them. The Jets in 04' beat San Diego in San Diego and were a FG away from beating Pittsburgh. It happens man.

    Look, i'm not saying the Jets would go far in the playoffs, not at all. But i'm not gonna sit here and read that someone would rather look at 2007 than possibly make the playoffs, and they wouldn't want to make the playoffs because they'd be ousted round 1, "screwing our future."

    That's a pathetic fan.
     
  7. york61

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    The reason I said 07 is because it's just going to be a continuation of the Chad era. Yeah, I would love to see the Jets in the playoffs, who wouldn't, but let's face it, if we faced San Diago with LT and their offense how do you think we would fair? I'm guessing not too good. If we make the playoffs, the media will play it up and make the QB change that more difficult. Sometimes you need to take a step back to go forward. QBs matter, I remember when Richard Todd through like 5 interceptions in the playoffs and we had a great team that year. You can only go as far as your QB will take you.
     
  8. Khan

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    Gradkowski's managing wins, Vince Young is managing wins...just because the rest of the team may be the main reason, doesn't take away from the fact that we played fine yesterday and Chad is the one who threw the endzone INT, and missed many key throws he usually makes.
     
  9. EcKo151

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    Gradkowski got put in because Chris Simms had his spleen removed. Vince Young got put in because the Titans are in no contention, Collins is horrible as well. Even Keith Bulluck said something along the lines of "Vince should be in to see what we have for the future."

    They were already what? 1-5? I can almost guarantee that if the Jets were 1-5, then Clemens would be in. But do make the change now to a rookie would send a bad vibe through the team, at least from my view.
     
  10. Khan

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    Oh no I'm just responding to the argument that no rookie can win games, because those teams are definitely in the bottom tier, but pulling through. Vince, his stats suck but I watched most of the Eagles game, his throws are surprisingly accurate but poorly calculated, often trying to squeeze it into double or triple coverage...maybe that's just the receivers' fault not being able to get open.
     
  11. PRPitbull

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    I was referring to the Colts, Bears, and Pats.
     
  12. VegasMav

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    The fact alone that Chad has played in 10 games and still has his arm attached is a miracle.

    The fact that we have a better record than last year...I recall Rome was not built in a day.
     
  13. FazeOne17

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  14. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    No offense, but that's crazy. By the way, how do you define a big game since you say he will never win one?

    TBTF


     
  15. pats-hater

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    I don't. Brady Quinn is the answer.
     
  16. NYJets38

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    There is no logical reason Clemens should play, unless we are officially eliminated from the playoffs, and even then it depends how well Chad has been playing.

    First off, to expect Clemens to be Ben roesthlisberger is ridiculous.
    Ben Roesthlisberger had the best running game in the league to rely on. Ours is 15th, we can't just hand the ball off all game and then throw the ball 10-15 times and expect to win.

    Big Ben also wasn't asked to run the no huddle, or make all the changes at the line that Chad has been asked to make, and that has been a big reason our offense hasn't been as awful as expected.

    Clemens had his chance to win the starting job in training camp. He wasn't good enough. He's the 3rd string QB, who doesn't exactly get a ton of reps during the week. So what makes people think he's suddenly good enough now? We are 5-5, unless Clemens has shown a real reason why he is good enough to come in and win more games, we can't afford to play him. This is not the point of the season where you just take a shot in the dark and see what he does.
     

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