Schottie threw the ball down the field once yesterday. He allowed them to stack the box and jump on all Chad's routes. Not to exciting to me, he called a bad game. Running off tackle and throwing screen pass to the wideouts, those plays take time to develop and CHI D is way to fast and explosive, just plain dumb playcalling.
Ask the entire tgg group why any oc we've had refuses to air it out with cp. he has a propensity for lame duck passes which equal int's. Every position is catching up to the talent level and chemistry except cp. We'll know for real when LC starts doing a TO which he is not that far from going.
You were watching a different game than me. The game I saw, Chad failed to hit Cotchery for 10 yards, and then overthrew everyone about 8 different times on 10+ yard routes, usually towards the sideline. You don't blame the OC for that, you don't blame the WRs either, you blame the QB.
If he overthrew receivers then it's not his "weak" arm that is at fault, is it??? And I saw the pregame warmups and he threw a 50 +yard rope to Brad Smith, so his arm seems fine. He played badly, I agree, but I wish the arm strength crap would stop.
Overthrowing a WR by 5 yards on a 15 yard pattern doesn't mean your arm isn't a problem. I don't think people understand what a weak arm is. It's not always how far you can throw it, in fact, I could care less if he could throw a 50 yard bomb. I want to see 15 yard darts throughout the game, with the ball travelling in the air fast enough that a defender can't run across the field and make a play. That's what's meant by having a good arm, gunning the ball into tight spots. If distance was the only problem, then Pennington wouldn't have critics based on arm strength. If it was just distance, Pennington would not be at a huge disadvantage. But it isn't, it's about how quickly you get the ball out there, and Pennington simply does not do that well enough to be a top NFL QB, and quite frankly, I have my doubts that he can even do it well enough to be a mediocre QB.
sure, a weak arm could cause him to over throw receivers. he knows his normal throw can't get the ball where it needs to, so he has to put a little extra on it, but by throwing harder he can't get the right speed or depth on it because it exceeds his abilities, and thus he throws it too hard and over throws it.
Well, you can say we don't have any other options than Chad at this point so benching him isn't an option. Question is, whose fault is it that we DON'T have any other QB option than CP? For the foreseeable future, this team sinks or swims with Chad Pennington taking snaps. Ramsey isn't an option and sadly, Clemens won't play unless Chad gets hurt. Our QB depth sucks folks. We passed on QB's that could have stepped in right now so we are where we are today. Other teams made their QB changes because they could. We won't because we can't....
you hit it on the nail.....if this team had any other viable option Penny probably wouldve been pulled. I'm not calling for him to be benched yet, but hes turning "a few bad games" into a lengthy case of why its time to take him out of our future. I believe he gives us the best chance to win, but then again we dont know what we have. For now, if we want to compete, chad has to play. At the same time though, if his play continues, he's making it very easy for us to move on and forget about him next season. i love the guy, and he is the best qb we have right now, but that doesnt say anything to defend or justify his performance. he simply says "we need to fix the pass attack" yadda yadda, he said he's also not feeling confident. thats comforting.
Everyone has been touting Pennington's decision making ability to make up for his lack of arm strength. If CP is going to be anything short of spectacular in decision making, he has no business being our QB with his noddle arm.
NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG in terms of a QB when he has played poorly for 1/2 the year to date. Chad's a stand up guy so was Herm but it came time for Herm to go and he went. Chad's time to start playing like a veteran QB who will make $9M this year is right now. The Jets should run the table with the teams left on their schedule. Chad's "good old boy" routine needs to win some games otherwise it's time to look to the future without him as our QB!
The fact is Chad hasnt performed lately and he needs to improve if we want a shot at winning it all. If Chad doesnt step up his performance hes gonna have to sit. he played well early in the year and against NE but 10 td's and 11 interceptions isnt comeback player of the year worthy.
I did, the same negative people who bitch all the time, all year long. If you can win at New England and they still bitch, why even worry about it? Mangini knows what he's doing and he said Chad is the QB. The rest of all this is really just a waste of time.
If Sundays game was the first CP ever played for the Jets in his rookie year,,,we would ALL be saying get rid of that bum. I think alot of us are letting our past emotions about Chad cloud our analyzing of his performance recently.
I agree 100%. People are letting their emotions cloud their thinking regarding Chad. It is time for him to go. 7-9 with Clemens is the same as 9-7 with Chad. We either find out what we have now or go into next season with the same mess at QB. We need to know what to do in the offseason to address out Qb position. Qb is the only position that has not gotten better as the year has gone on. It has gotten worse.
i don't think Coles will ever go as far as T.O. but does anyone remember when Santana Moss was asked about how to ignite the Offense, how to get him the ball, and he responded, "i don't know. maybe i'll take the snap and throw the ball up to myself, then go catch it." obviously, that was a shot at Pennington's arm and inability to get the ball downfield. and that was like three years ago. nothing has changed. cheers
There are more threads about people who are "sick of this bench Chad crap" then there are posts from people who actually want Chad benched right now. While I agree that he shouldn't be benched in the middle of what 'could' be a little playoff run, I would not want the CS to hesitate to pull him if he continues to play poorly or if we lose one more game. With all these so called 'easy' opponents coming up, it would be a good time to get a rookie some playing time.
so how are we basing Chad's demotion? what if we go on a little win streak but Chad continues to play like crap and turn the ball over, yet we somehow find ways to win. does winning justify his poor play? the fact that we are loosely in the Playoff hunt complicates everything. maybe the 7th loss should be the marker afterall. i still don't think we're going to get in anyway. Jax won last night, KC won on Sunday, and Cincy's win tied them with us. the Playoffs are disappearing right in front us, unless we somehow reel off 6 straight wins. so maybe the next loss should be the last we see Chad. i'm not sure because this whole situation is foggy. but let it be known, that i'm in favor of pulling him because he's not our future. cheers
I really don't think Pennington should be pulled unless the Jets are out of the playoff hunt. Of course, once that happens and assuming Pennington hasn't improved his play then bringing Clemens in is definitely an viable option IMHO.
