For those of you hating our ability to land a QB lets not forget broncos drafted oswieler in the 1st round to succeed manning, he left for more money, went to the texans, lost his job to scrub QBs, got traded to the browns just to offload his salary then released by the browns. he had years to learn from one of the best QBs ever as well and fucking john elway running the team lol Broncos drafted after that debacle paxton lynch in the 1st round IIRC, he is in year 3 and can't beat out trevor simien a 7th round pick with almost the same experience. 2014 manziel 2013 too many to name it's not just our staff, it's just that QB is the hardest position to transition to the NFL especially since most don't run a pro style offense and the defenses in the NFL are much better
I'm not saying he definitely can, but if he can, it would be because they're totally different responsibilities. He may not have much of an eye for talent, know scouting, or be good at negotiating contracts, but he's an experienced, quality football man. He knows what it takes to win. He knows offensive football. He's been around the NFL for a long time and is respected. Having been involved in building winning teams, he probably has a good idea how to build a roster/team, and create an identity and culture for the team.
I did think before I posted. Maybe you should proof read your nonsense. I replied to this comment in your stupid rant. Oh and by the way Parcells drafted Pennington, Sean Ellis and John Abraham. The Jets needed a QB. We hadn't had a decent one since Kenny O'Brien. You don't trade away a chance to get one of the best QB prospects to ever come out of college. That would have been mind-numbingly stupid. Eff Parcells.
Hold on now. O'Brien hasn't been blowing away team down there in Houston. He's throw crazy money at bad QB's and then started Hoyer in the playoffs. Set a record for being the first team to not score in a playoff. His offense is uber bland. Bringing him around the Jets might keep Hackenberg around longer than he needs to be.
Do QBs actually develop through coaching or are they what they are? in other words, if you put a top talent QB on any team would he not turn out more or less the same or does the coaching really make that much difference? I get that some like Bill has had great success with various QBs but is that coaching (of the players) or is that having a great system and getting players that fit it? I would rather have a really smart coach with a clear system/scheme and feel for the game than someone that was a 'coach' or developed players.
No. Why? He's never coached a day in his life before. The best players don't always make the best coaches. Wayne Gretzky and Ted Williams come to mind.
The problem starts at the fucking top. Woody. He's pretty much an outsider with no real football acumen. He hires fucking consultants to tell him who to hire. The best teams have owners that are passionate about their team. The mere fact this fuck head wants to be an ambassador is clear proof he has little interest in football other than money. Insisting on hiring nobodies is playing the lottery while saving money. When woody looks to hire, he's basically touring yard sales looking for the big score. It's bullshit. You can argue about qbs and GMs and coaches until you die, but it's a problem far deeper than that. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
I believe that coaches really do help QBs develop. Lots of QBs look great in college, but then flop in the NFL. Look at all the Heismann Trophy-winning QBs who have been utter busts in the NFL. I think that shows that natural ability talent/alone isn't enough. Their fundamentals (footwork, arm angle, release) etc. may need to be refined/adjusted. Look at Hack. Look at the pre-draft discussion regarding Mahomes. Many have to learn how to study film and read NFL Ds. Some of the QBs who ran a lot in college have to learn to keep their eyes downfield, look to pass 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and run only as a last resort. They need to learn to call protections to audible to better plays for the D's alignment. All of that doesn't happen by osmosis or automatically. I absolutely think that QB coaches, OCs and HCs, can make or break QBs. While I don't think Sanchez would have ever been an elite QB, I think he would have turned out a lot better if we had had a quality QB Coach, OC and HC and they had a chance to work with him for a year or two before throwing him to the wolves, and especially without his dumbass HC predicting a SB victory and putting a ton of unnecessary pressure on him.
Bad idea. Despite O'Brien's reputation, developing a QB is the one thing he hasn't done in Houston. He's already failed with Mallett and Osweiler, and the only way he'll be available is if he fails with Watson too.
