Every year there's a terrible young Jets player (or 3) with no business on an NFL field, and every year someone points out this unfortunate situation and is immediately shouted down with cries for patience. But who can name a player for the jets who eventually justified these cries for patience? Anyone? Who looked like shit out of the gate for us but then blossomed into a solid contributor? Bryan Thomas? Maybe? Brian Winters? I'm reaching. Now think of the long-ass list of guys who sucked at first... and then continued to suck their way right out of the league. I can't even begin. When it comes to this team, the rookie eye test has proven quite reliable for as long as I can remember. Patience has done us no favors.
I have to disagree with you on "pretty decent job". He made 2 good throws last night, and 1 was a throw out of bounds when he was going to get sacked. He's a mess, terrible presence in the pocket (doesn't feel for pressure no matter where it is, hardly ever steps up to get out of trouble, takes way too much time...) locks on 1 target, his "touch" passes are atrocious, his timing routes are off (I would say it's cause he's not used to his WRs, but he's been playing with these guys for months). Considering the level of competition, I'd categorize Hack as less than mediocre last night. Typically I stay fairly positive with young players, but he's just not good at this juncture. Brooks Bollinger looked better than he has. Every negative connotation that college scouts pegged him with have come to fruition this preseason. If they didn't waste a 2nd round pick on him, he would have been cut or landed on the PS. Honestly, he belongs on the PS, I have 0 doubt he makes it through waivers.
The kid is getting his first real shot at some playing time ... not saying you don't make valid points but I'm not ready to just write the kid off like a lot are . I don't know what he's got but I'd like to see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
He might be a work in progress, but he's got way too many cons to pros. The arm is STRONG, but the arm talent is far from developed. Things that worry me in a QB are when simple things can't be corrected, and when they lack that "make it happen" attribute. Especially when it comes to simple plays that require no thinking and more instinct. For example, Dane Evans TD last night, that was a "make it happen" play. He got out of trouble, had an open receiver and threw a weird duck pass. From what I've seen, Hack can't do that. If Hack had that identical play, he would have either thrown a laser bolt that would have been incomplete, or been sacked/ran out of bounds. Am I throwing in the towel on him, not totally. Do I think he belongs on the PS, astounding yes.
With this year's Oline, we'll be scouring the waiver wires for another qb at some point. The qbs will be resembling the cast of the Walking Dead.
The Jets should have a master board for the other 31 teams. That way they can follow any possible OL pickups that won't be on a 53 man roster. Other positions like defensive outside rushers, back up and special team players like good punt and kickoff return men are also worth watching for possible upgrades.
Trick is to find those teams with deepness in OL or WR and see who gets the axe. Emmet Cleary (RT) of Dallas who's had a nice camp but may be the odd man out, should be under the Jets radar.
Kind of where I am too. I see a bit of a robot quality to Hack. Almost like he is too programmed. Several times on his three and outs Hack immediately dumped off to his outlet who was well short of the 1st down. There was no pass rush and he could have waited a beat to see if his receivers could free themselves up for a big gain. But he just dumped it. It's possible that as the game slows down for him he begins to play more naturally and starts both reading his pocket and keeping his eyes downfield. But he is not there today and has no business being on an active roster until he does.
Seems like whenever this time of year rolls around we're all sitting on our hands hoping that the front office is gonna prioritize OL & find us quality depth or perhaps even a starter. Granted this new cutdown structure is Alittle different but I refuse to get my hopes up yet again.Either teams don't let loose anything of value for OLs,the OL talent pool is drastically more shallow than we realize or the front office like usual doesn't prioritize OL upgrades no matter how porous things may seem. Odds are they'll sign some long shot running back or yet another safety.
Why is this the 3rd thread on this topic. I started a thread on this about a week ago. Someone else started a thread with a slightly different title, but same intent, a few days later, and now this. Moderators, please merge the 3 threads.
Exactly, I see the robot-esque quality as well. Long and short of it is, there is a very high probability that all 3 quarterbacks will be playing this year. If last night's shot on McCown (and last week's roll up on Petty) was any indication, it might be sooner than later. So in that case, we'll be seeing these other QBs on the roster anyways!
We may never win another game, but at least we can say we've rostered most players to ever enter the league who someone who knows someone has heard of. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
D'Brickashaw Ferguson-Written off as a bust early in yr 2 Bryant Thomas-Written off as a bust incessantly Chad Pennington-Written off when he didn't become starter early in Herm regime Adrian jones-Written off after he gave up a sack to Dwight freeney preseason rookie year Brian Winters-Enough said Darrelle Revis-Many thought he was flawed after rookie year & that he couldn't cover in patterns Randy Thomas- Folks were upset when he was drafted over perceived superior OL prospects & bought in to Cimini reports that he couldn't pick up scheme during camp of rookie year Dewayne Robertson- people forget how badly he was trashed rookie year & how far he came years 2 & 3 when he & Vilma were best players on D which many forget. John Abraham-People wanted Bubba franks instead & thought he was a part time pass rusher after year 1. Sione Pouha-Struggled his rookie year & people assumed w his age he had no place Marcus Coleman-No one ever thought he'd put it together heading into Parcells regime I could go on but I think I made my point.Jets picks usually bust..no doubt but it ony feeds the beast when the fan base collectively writes young players off before they even have a chance to settle in & improve from coaching.
Following are OL who have already been cut. Edited with latest info I can find. OTs Will Freeman - Falcons Kevin Graf - Falcons Justin Murray - Broncos Cyrus Kouandjio - Lions Victor Salako - Eagles Khalif Barnes - Saints Jerrry Ugokwe - Saints Eric Winston - Bengals Travis Averill - Falcons Larson Graham - Falcons T.J. Clemmings - Vikings John Kling - Redskins Erik Austell - Texans Ruben Carter - Steelers Jah Reid - Chiefs Blaine Causell - Panthers Greg Pyke - Bills Roubbens Joseph - Ravens OGs Karim Barton, Bills Blake Muir - Colts Jarrell Broxton - Ravens Jarrod Pughsley - Ravens Richard Levy - Giants Connor Bozick - Lions Geoff Gray - Packers Matt Rotheram - Lions Oni Omoile - Raiders Jake Simonich - Titans Marc Spelman - TItans Kitt O'Brien, Browns Jon Greco - Browns Mike Liedtke - Bucs Cs Jeremy Zuttah, Ravens Gabe Ikard, Browns Brian Folkerts - Panthers Tim Barnes - Niners Tyler Orlosky - Eagles Josh Allen - Bucs Craig Urbik - Dolphins Derrick Nelson - Ravens OG/OT De'Ondre Wesley - Ravens OL David Yankey - Panthers D.J. Tialavea - Falcons Andreas Knappe - Falcons Norman Price - Niners Andrew Lauderdale - Niners Michael Bowie - Giants Corin Brooks - Giants Ruben Carter - Cowboys Malcolm Bunche - Jaguars Demetrius Rhaney - Jaguars Cam Johnson - Browns FBs* Lorenzo Taliaferro - Ravens Tyler Renew - Falcons Tyler McCloskey - Niners Marquez Williams - Jaguars Darrel Young - Panthers *Since one of the main responsibilities of FBs is to block, I'll include them as well.
