I think that hits the nail on the head. Everyone was saying how Hack couldn't complete short passes - in fact, that he was HORRIBLE at that, so giving him a game plan full of short passes is a good approach. Also, with the questionable OL, he's going to need to get rid of the ball quickly, so he'd better learn how now. I didn't get to see any of the game, but it's encouraging. The only "negative" is McCown doing well and giving Bowles even more reason to play him. Even if he has a career season, he should simply be the backup in case Hack can't hack it or gets injured, but I know that Bowles won't follow that approach. I swear, if they "win" themselves out of great draft position, I give up. Still, it sounds like everyone made improvement, and that's the important thing.
Thanks for that! Since I didn't get to see the game this was helpful. I'm not an expert QB evaluator, so maybe I'm missing something, but it seemed to me that Hack was locking onto the receivers and not looking anyone off them. He also seemed to make some throws to guys that were shorter completion instead of going even a little bit deeper. Not terrible, and compared to reports of him last year, miles ahead, but obviously a work in progress. I hope he makes that progress quickly.
Unbelievable. You obviously have no clue what a "rebuild" is and fail to understand that when you do a rebuild and commit to a youth movement, you don't give a damn how many games you win or lose that season and your final record is the least of your concerns. The season is all about developing your young players and seeing who can help you going forward. That is even more true when you have a young QB that you have to determine if he is the franchise's future QB, so you know what you need to do in FA and the draft the following offseason. Yes, the players will try to win as much as they can, as will Bowles, but if he doesn't play Hack before the last couple of games or at all, I hope he never works coaching football again. The goal isn't just eking into the playoffs. It's building a consistent winner so that you can get to and win the Lombardi Trophy. You are the one who doesn't get it. The GM is not gonna lose his job unless Woody's more of a moron than I thought. He has added a lot of good young talent to the team and they are in year one of a rebuild. Woody stuck Mac with Bowles and a stupid situation where they were peers and working at cross purposes. The Jets signed a veteran QB because they had two young QBs who while they have talent and potential, were not ready to play. They also signed him to help mentor the young QBs. He has admitted that he knows his time starting here will be short. He's a placeholder until Hack is ready to start. They signed him because they are going to be running a WCO and he has experience in the WCO. Save your pity. I'll be fine either way. If Bowles doesn't learn from his past mistakes and fix his issues, he'll be gone, or I will be. If McCown stays healthy and Bowles plays him the entire season and doesn't get fired, I'll be gone. If Hack starts by game 6 and plays well, showing that he is our FQB, I'll be good. If Hack starts, struggles and shows that he isn't ready and may never be, then I'll hang around to see if Mac drafts a topflight QB prospect. If he does, great. If not, I'll be gone. You'll be the one that deserves pity, because you'll still be here supporting Bowles and urging conservative play.
It's exactly the same symptom, however. In WCO, QBs should keep their vision neutral until he's ready to fire off the pass [1] but Hack either turns to the WR immediately or [2] starts staring down the receiver even before the snap [3], and fixates his vision on them until he passes [4].
He did that last night. He didn't do it in college. I'm sure that he didn't forget that. The only logical explanation is that he was either so focused on completing the passes that he momentarily developed that habit or it was something that Bates and/or Morton had him do for some reason. They know that he's not ready to start in the regular season. Let's see what he does in the next 2-3 preseason games.
Bowles will not be the coach if we don't win some games. He does not care about a rebuild u get it You are thick headed I am done replying to u. I hate Bowles and told u that. You must be and old guy who does not remember things. Your posts r rambling nonsense. Have the last word. It's like champ 2. Geez.
Amazing we know everything about Hack after 1 preseason game. Most have no clue that the majority of the plays are vanilla as shit. There are no complicated reads or plays for the most part.
I hope you're right, but it could also be that he's so focused on trying to do everything else, that he can't make the adjustment. Yes, as he becomes more comfortable this might improve, but it's also very possible that by the time he becomes comfortable, the locking onto to his first receiver becomes a bad habit. I'm willing to give him time, and he looked much better than reports would've had us believe, but it's very frustrating to watch a 2nd round pick who was "red shirted" have to take baby steps. It is what it is, but damn frustrating. I'll also say this...if they're just going to use Petty as cannon fodder, and given the performances of the QBs who were drafted, I'm really pissed they didn't grab one of them. I'd be much happier if they had McCown, Hack, and Mahomes or Watson.
I don't think we know everything about the kid. I saw one glaring problem that he shouldn't have. That's all.
I get that, but still, shouldn't the QB still look off his receiver and then come back to him? Unless he's got to get rid of it because of pressure. Vanilla or not, looking at your intended target exclusively, which is what it seemed he was doing, is a recipe for leading the league in picks. Again, maybe it's part of the process, but he needs to improve this in a hurry if he wants to last.
Hack can make the reads, that's always been his strong suit. Getting the ball out quick with accuracy? That was always an issue with him. It seems that's something the Jets want to work on and develop. As the preseason continues, you'll see more complex play calls. We'll be able to judge him alot more then.
It worked in the sense that Hack did what he was supposed to do, but he still has a ways to go. My guess is Morton told Hack don't worry about making reads to make it easier for him to focus on completing passes. If/when he can combine the two, he'll be ready to start.
Here are my two cents in response to this absolutely insane Hack criticism. - Most of it is nonsensical BS - Many here nit pick what is convenient to their argument and miraculously neglect to mention the rest - He is a freaking rookie on his first game, first rodeo, and we are assessing him with the yard stick of a veteran - Very few focused on his incredible improvement from 2016 to this first game, most chose to slam him because he did not look like our FQB - We should be looking at improved mechanics, situation awareness, accuracy and ability to read defenses. NOT SPECIFIC STATS which by the way looked pretty good IMHO BS statement #1 - nothing but short passes, dink and dunk, it showed us nothing. This is by far the most laughable statement. That's exactly what he should be focusing on first and become proficient on. That will be the bread and butter of this offense. Never mind that the short pass is the staple of the WCO, you just don't start a raw rookie by forcing him to make time critical long passes while still learning the ropes. It wasn't the game plan, he followed the game plan and he got the best of it BS statement #2- Ho hum lousy 120 yards. His percentage was 75 with three critical drops....that is pretty fucking good in my view BS statement # 3- He did not score a touch down. Yep, he didn't, he didn't cause any critical turn overs either, nor was he blessed by long runs that's ticked, most called by penalties. But that was not mentioned as a counter argument. Does he have a way to go, yes......did he show us something last night that is positive, VERY POSITIVE......absolutely. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD THAT CAME OUT, AND ALSO THE REALIZATION THAT HE HAS MUCH FURTHER TO GO.....BUT A RAY OF HOPE HE CAN GET THERE. HE NEEDS TO PUT HIS HEAD ON THE SWIVEL AND MAKE THE DEFENSES GUESS, OR HE WILL BE INTERCEPTED MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. BUT I THINK HE WILL SURELY MANAGE TO IMPROVE ONCE HE GETS FAMILIAR AND COMFORTABLE IN THE POCKET. WE MUST GIVE HIM A YEAR TO GET THERE.GIVE HIM A CHANCE. Funny that the nay Sayers never mentioned the strength in his arm, so when the time comes, he will be able to fire the rocket. Something that sure as shit Sanchez could not do and Fitz could not even dream of. Great start Hack, long way to go. keep it up and keep improving. I don't care when you will become the starter, but when you do, I have a feeling you will be what we all hoped for.
I can't believe the people that are criticizing him for locking onto his first read too much. If your first read is open, why would you move on to your second read? He completed 72% of his passes despite 3 drops. It makes no sense to pass up a wide open receiver that's the first option in the progression.
It was a good game for Hack in that he got his feet under him and looked pretty confident in the pocket. He didn't do anything spectacular but he certainly needed to calm the critics that he at least has some command of what he's doing under center in this league. We can start to open things up for him more in the next couple games. They just wanted to give him a shot of confidence before he tries to throw the ball all over the yard. I was pleased with his performance. Anyone who wasn't is being overly critical. Let the guy get settled a little bit in his first live action this year before we expect him to be hitting 40 yard post routes in stride. Again, I'll echo the fact that it's important that he looked to have a good pocket presence and no happy feet. His biggest issue IMO at Penn State was staring at the rush because of all the sacks he was taking. And he didn't demonstrate that poor habit yesterday at all really. This team might pleasantly surprise us as fans. It's sort of nice going into a year with low expectations, even if that screws up our chance at getting a high pick. We have a youthful enough roster with a stockpile of young receivers and defensive players that if we sign some quality offensive lineman next year, we can trade draft picks to move up and get our guy.
