Training camp thread

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  1. PulseJet

    PulseJet Well-Known Member

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    Well Andersons best games during the season were when Petty was under center. But that could have been because Fitz was locked like a laser on Marshall, to his and the teams detriment.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    I disagree. Baylor's offense did have some pro concepts. Even so, that doesn't explain the few TOs he had. I disagree that Petty doesn't have much upside. You've never liked him and have been biased against him.

    I did see potential last season. To say that he doesn't have potential is ridiculous and shows how biased, blind or ignorant you are. Sorry that you couldn't see it.
     
  3. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Pressure due to his coaches predictions? Nacho must have been ultra weak minded and too big of a wuss to let that affect him.
    Reverse the TD's and picks and that would be accurate. Hated seeing him drafted, glad he is gone, always panicked at the first sight of pressure, and still can't find a starting job and has been in the league long enough to "develope."
    Cost our team many games, and cost Philly a playoff birth a few years ago with multiple shitty games to close out that season. Sucks that we wasted a pick, a couple Super Bowl appearances, and too many seasons waiting for him to turn into something.
    Blame coaches, teammates, schemes, whatever. Truth is you can't turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.
     
  4. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Escapability?
    The "Butt Fumble" says otherwise.
    Lol
    In his rookie year he did look ok as a runner, and then in his 2nd year (I believe it was) got popped by a Ravens LB at the goal line, and decided running wasn't in his best interest.
     
  5. 101GangGreen101

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    No, Baylor does not have any pro style concepts in it's offense. If you can find a link to dispute that, feel free to post it here. Here's what I know about the Baylor offense:

    - No calls in the huddle
    - Simplistic reads, usually by having a certain # of receivers on one side of the field to create an advantage
    - Receiver route tree limited.

    Petty like I've said about other QBs, is a total bro, but all he did last season was force feed the ball to Anderson. His career trajectory is nothing more then a back-up. He was not impressive last year, at his age if we truly saw potential we would've saw it already. It's not about being biased, it's about seeing the truth.

    That doesn't mean Petty doesn't have value.
     
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  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Tom Brady makes everyone around him better. WIth this defense, he obviously makes the team competitive, but a winning record no way, too much to overcome. Now, if I could include the Pats O-Line coach, Dante Scarnecchia maybe I could make more of an argument :D

    Fitz couldn't connect with Robby cause he was too busy throwing to Marshall on every play and he absolutely doesn't have the arm to throw down the field. That limits the impact of Robby and Devin Smith before him. I didn't see much from Petty that made me think he was the future; same could be the same with Hack if he doesn't improve.
     
  7. Ptflea2

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    While the "butt fumble," as an example, is certainly a contradiction, I actually agreed with this point that Sanchez did possess a knack of "escapability." Not in the sense that he was a runner, but it felt like at least once a game, when the pocket broke down and a certain sack was inevitable, Mark escaped by the skin of his teeth and somehow made a positive play.
     
  8. Zach

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    Brady with this garbage means "no" even to you too, right?

    [I am just asking, because, somewhere along the way I read that "Petty was supposed to show his potential one way or another." I see that assertion laughable.]
     
  9. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    C'mon man, we really gonna sit here and compare the pocket presence of Petty to Tom Brady? Brady's football IQ? Brady would set the protection, probably audible the RB to a specific side to protect or run a route for a 15 yard completion. That would never happen to Brady. This is what the Jets need. A QB that makes those around him better. Petty ain't that guy, but I think in due time Hack could be that player. He has a shot. A very small one, but a shot.

    I don't see the potential in Petty, like I said he always had a great arm to make throws down the field, but cannot command a pro offense.
     
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  10. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    That's all well and good, but there's not a lot of money invested in Petty or Hackenberg. The Jets can easily dispose of both of them without a serious dent in the bottom line (or prospects for winning.) If they had been 1st round choices there would have been a serious Jets financial investment and consequently an organizational commitment to see them succeed with a more generous toleration for mistakes (at least in the beginning.) For guys like Petty and Hackenberg, the onus is on them to succeed. While the Jets would like for them to be successful, moving on from them is a lot easier than moving on from a guy who's a 1st round pick.
     
  11. BrowningNagle

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    welcome to the NFL lol
     
  12. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Can't read a defense either. They say he trusts his arm too much,not sure if he is just making the wrong decisions based on what he is or isn't seeing.
     
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    Not everyone can be Brett Favre, who coming into the league didn't even know what a nickel defense was. Over-reliance on his arm, but seemed to absolutely have a 4 leaf clover in his back pocket his entire career. You can't get away with that in today's league. Defenses are far more complex.
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Brady actually got back up though

     
  15. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Youve been saying this for a hot minute and so have i. I'm just not impressed, ive always said he can't read defenses. His almost always went with his first look. That's a product of the school he played at and i dont think he can overcome it. Not to mention his accuracy is horrid.

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  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    to be fair though the majority of the quarterbacks in the league can't read a defense. especially young QBs like Petty. Ryan Tannehill can't read a defense and he was a playoff QB last year. At 26 years old already, its fair to say Petty will never be Brady, but he doesn't need to be..
     
  17. Peebag

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    More specifically, Welcome to the New York Jets.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    As you know, there's a big difference in getting hit by a 205 lb. DB and sandwiched between a 269 lb. DE and a 305 lb. DT.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    You think Tannehill will lead the dolphins to anything special? I mean Sanchez had his moments too ... Tannehill a better qb with better weapons, but I doubt he ever becomes an elite qb that will help his team win a playoff game.

    Should've given some of his check to Ajayi.
     
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    I don't think Tannehill will be leading the Dolphins to much of anything this year. Looks like the partial tear of his ACL might have blown up.



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