Personally, I think RG3 was one of the more overrated prospects in recent history. Redskins his first year did an excellent job of scheming the offense for RG3, but it wasn't until the next season when they opened things up that he truly struggled. That's not good for Mariota, I think he's further along then RG3, but he really needs to improve a lot of the fundamentals and decision making in the pocket. Decision making and plays like this will get him killed. Needs to make better decisions after the ball is snapped.
By season 2 RGIII's mobility was down some due to the two knee surgeries and he basically was not the same player he was the year before.
I watched every one of their games in 2016. Can't say the same for you as you're mostly relying on the first quarter of 2016 to back up your assertions. http://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-...eneration-stats-say-a-lot-about-his-deep-ball From the same beat writer that wrote the article you posted - "He and the Titans struggled in the first quarter of the 2016 season, but things gradually got better and it became clear that repertoire we saw in his first camp was there." Why do you keep bringing up Winston? Bucs beat writer been following both since they got drafted said Mariota had the better year. http://www.tampabay.com/sports/foot...us-mariota-mariota-won-2016-heres-why/2310768 Anti-Mariota detractors like yourself keep acting like Winston has no one to throw the ball to. Ya breh, let's completely ignore WInston's offensive weapson. I have no issue with his performance against SD. He didn't play well and took care of the ball after that game...ie, he improved. Since Week 5, however, the Titans’ offense has greatly improved, having turned the ball over just five times and making explosive plays in the passing game. Mariota has seemed to gain more trust and confidence in his pass catchers, as well as his overall feel in the pocket, with just two below-average games out of his past eight. Here’s a look at some of Mariota’s key improvements: Passer rating from a clean pocket: Weeks 1–4: 81.8 (28th) Weeks 5–12: 123.5 (third) Passer rating under pressure: Weeks 1–4: 47.2 (20th) Weeks 5–12: 99.1 (first) Passer rating on deep shots (throws traveling 20 or more yards in the air): Weeks 1–4: 81.9 (18th) Weeks 5–12: 123.8 (tied for fourth) Passer rating using play action: Weeks 1–4: 62.9 (30th) Weeks 5–12: 131.5 (second) Mariota’s vision and natural instincts in the pocket are exactly what an NFL team looks for, and this area will only continue to become more consistent. https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-marcus-mariota-titans-offense-clicking-at-right-time/ He had a great second season. Titans seem pretty happy.
I don't think the plan for KC is to redshirt Mahomes for the year. I see this as similar to the Giants where the plan for them all along was to start Warner the first half of the season then go to Manning for the 2nd half. I would imagine Mahomes is the KC starter from the 2nd half of season if not sooner and beyond.
Thank god he improved! Tweets from first two games of the season. Keep quoting Q1 2016 to push your narrative.
His yard per attempt, I believe was tops in the league, I know it was higher then Aaron Rodgers or whatever. However, what about the turnovers uncer center? That was also talked about prior to the draft and that also correlates to playing under center. Winston is the best prospect since Andrew Luck and I still stand by that, those 2 will forever be linked. I was a huge Winston fan and would've sold the farm for him, but not for Mariota, that was always my point. Winston had the better receiver in Mike Evans, but he didn't have anyone else on that roster, also had a crappier offensive line and an even worse running game. Titans had a top 2 line and one of the best running games in the NFL to take the pressure off Mariota. Next season, should be the true test between the two. Both have very good supporting casts now.
Actually if you read all of my articles I posted, the one was from November which is about what 6 or so games in? Responsible for more defensive TDs than anyone else in NFL. What we really need is the last 3 or 4 games he played. This whole discussion is water under the bridge, IMO Winston will be better QB / leader / makes those around him better. I don't get that impression from Mariota 2 seasons in. You can agree to disagree. I'm onto the next QBs that will be coming out.
You didn't read the entire post. You dogged his deep ball and were wrong proven wrong. I have no issue with the other anti-mariota talking points you bring up. It's about progress and he improved from year 1 to year 2. Mike Evans >>>>> rishard matthews, tajae sharpe, kendall wright. No way you're gonna slice that. No one is taking titans best offensive weapon, 32 year old delanie walker over Mike evans either. This wasn't about mariota vs winston, you're just deflecting like you always do with Mariota. I follow both qbs and watched all their games in 2016, they're gonna be really good. don't care who is considered better than the other...all i know is, the jets would have been better with mariota. if you think he's excelling on the titans becasue of mike mularkey (lol) and his 60 year old archaic coaching staff, you dumb. He's a franchise qb.
Now that the pre-draft arguments about Mariota have been completely debunked, the new one is that "well he's no Jameis Winston"...lol? What's next? "Well he's no Andrew Luck, John Elway..yada yada yada". I think the Titans, like most teams with a FQB, are satisfied with not having to worry about the position for at least a decade provided health is not an issue.
Yeah I dogged his deep ball because it was an issue, he improved it, but to say it wasn't an issue or it won't be going forward isn't true. He still fumbles the ball and makes questionable decisions too. Let's see if he can come out of the gate next season with a better core, and be smarter with the football. It was ALWAYS about Mariota vs Winston. Do you not remember when this all started? I liked Winston far more because of his leadership, and his ability to put the ball only where his receivers can get it. He was the only QB I wanted that draft because he doesn't have much to work on in terms of the pro offense. He can make any throw in the book and while Mariota improved on his deep ball, I still don't think he can make every throw. Ball placement ability, Winston does this better then a lot of QBs in this league already. He truly makes those around him better. That is the QB I want on the Jets. To me, I always liked having multiple targets over just one. Sharpe was a decent option for Mariota, same with Kendall Wright when he was healthy. Walker was solid and Murray was an excellent receiver out of the back-field. If Mariota couldn't survive with the Titans line, I would hate to see him take a hit like Petty did last season. Mike Mularkey has done a better job then most thought also. Gave Mariota a top running game and schemed around him to make him feel comfortable.
His deep ball issues during the draft were overblown by you anti-mariota goons. He improved from year 1 to year 2 and should continue to improve in year 3. lol, the goon crew pushing the narrative that mariota's improvements are temporary ala RG3. At the end of the day, Winston had Mike Evans -- an elite WR to throw to. He had up and coming Brate and his own set of scrubs to throw to similar to Mariota. Kendall was injured throughout the season and Sharpe was so good that they drafted someone to replace him in 2017, lol. Had you watched their games, you'd know that. I don't care who's better than the other, they're both franchise QB'S. Hopefully you'll be wrong on the 2018 qb's like you were on Mariota and we'll finally take the risk & get our franchise QB. It's good to be back! 2018 discussion around here gonna be off the chain.
Goons? At the end of the day, Mariota had a top 2 line and a top 5 running game, see I can do that too! Poor Mariota. No Jerry Rice to throw to 2018 is a while to go, make sure you watch your college football, Jets will be looking for one then, so it appears you want the Jets to fail ... why do you post here if you want to see the Jet ... personally I am rooting for Hack to prove the doubters wrong. Reads the defense, has elite arm strength. Hopefully fixes that footwork in the pocket.
First is it was "Mariota is going to be a bust", he can't possibly succeed in an NFL O! Now, he's no Winston? Give me a break. Mariota is every bit as good as Winston. One possess more of a gun slinger mentality with a penchant at times for making horrific decisions. The other is a mroe efficient passer who feasts on the short with a short relief, but also has at times severe flaws with his deep ball. It comes down to preference of styles between the two passers. All I know is, I'd sign up for 12 games a year, not even 16 a year of Mariota(if the durability is a problem), over the garbage we're likely to trout next year and in future years.
Mariota, contrary to the belief of many, is not an excellent runner. He has excellent tools in that department, but he doesn't have the running instincts of a Wilson, a Cam, or RG3 at his peak. He excels as a passer, especially in the short game... he doesn't need to run zone reads 10-12 times a game to be effective, which is the complete opposite of what RG3 was. So even if he experiences a decline as an athlete , I don't think it'll be much of a problem. Lastly, I'd says there's a severe difference between experiencing a torn ACL(which RG3 did twice, once in college)and a broken leg.
