Make that trade, then take Mahomes at 12 and enjoy getting the better QB from the team that moved up to get their guy.
There's absolutely no way they pass on Garrett at #1 unless they get a trade that would be irresponsible to pass up. It honestly doesn't even really make sense for them to trade back because they have so many picks the next two years anyway.
I take Howard on the 12 if he is there or BPA if not and Mahomes on the 33 if he is there or BPA. In your scenario, not sure I want Mahomes. Gifted Air Raid QB's don't do so well in the NFL. Maybe Mahomes will be the exception but we're so cursed with QB's I'm not sure it's worth the gamble.
If Howard made it to 12 it's a slam dunk; don't think he will. Also don't see Mahomes getting to 33 either. I get your frustration with the Jets QB history, but that shouldn't stop them from pressing forward with trying to find one. The bad luck has to give eventually, statistically speaking. There's definitely a case to be made for several other players at that spot, and definitely a case to be made against any QB in this draft. I just think if Mahomes is someone the Jets think can rise above his college system, how can they pass? Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
I think Mahomes and maybe Kizer get to the 33. I think Trubisky and Watson go in the 1st. I think Webb might be better than all of the above and go in the 4th round, maybe the 6th, or maybe a shocker in the late 1st/early 2nd. I long for the supposed absolutes of the 2018 draft...
Keep in mind Mahomes outright took the starting QB job from Webb and forced him to transfer, and since then has been far more productive. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
Brian Griese kept Tom Brady off the field for 2+ years at Michigan. I do hear what you're saying though. It is unusual for an underclassman to unseat an upperclassman like that.
Trubisky Game film breakdown by one of the best...matt waldman https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/02/28/rsp-boiler-room-no-85-qb-mitch-trubisky-extended-look/ best comparison is blake bortles? yeesh
I don't think most think that will happen or want that to happen, I think either of those 2 would be too high if picked at 6 no matter how many pundits mock them to the Jets.
Jets path to a first round QB is via trade down. If they can't find a suitable trading partner, then there are other players available at 6 that are too good of prospects to take the risk on this year's QB class. The QB risk is only worth it when paired with more picks. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
There was a thread started a while back asking what posters would do, they overwhelmingly chose to not draft a QB in the 1st. Even if you include those that were ok with drafting one in any round, those that did not want a QB drafted this year still outnumbered those that did 37 to 16. I was one of those that picked drafting a QB in any round, to me that meant a 3rd or later so effectively the poll would have been 38-15 if it was just for one in the 1st. No one here has insight into what the Jets will do but your guess that they will draft a QB at 6 is only that, a guess. http://theganggreen.com/forums/threads/what-would-you-do-as-a-gm-poll.88299/
No offense, but I'm talking about all the opinions I'm hearing on sports radio and television, which most of the time the pundits say the Jets are the team likeliest to draft a quarterback first in the first round. I believe the Jets really like Trubisky. I'd rather have Watson, but if Mac goes risky drafting Trubisky, I won't be a bitch, I'll support Mitch.
NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (April): UNC QB Mitch Trubisky ESPN's Mel Kiper (April): UNC QB Mitch Trubisky ESPN's Todd McShay (April): LSU SS Jamal Adams CBSSports.com's Dane Brugler (April): UNC QB Mitch Trubisky NFL Network's Charley Casserly (April): LSU SS Jamal Adams NJ Advance Media's Darryl Slater (April): Ohio State FS Malik Hooker NJ Advance Media's James Kratch (April): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NFL.com's Bucky Brooks (March): Alabama DE Jonathan Allen NJ Advance Media's Matt Lombardo (March): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NJ Advance Media's Eliot Shorr-Parks (March): UNC QB Mitch Trubisky ESPN's Mel Kiper (March): Alabama TE O.J. Howard NJ Advance Media's Mark Eckel (March): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore CBSSports.com's Rob Rang (March): Clemson QB Deshaun Watson CBSSports.com's Dane Brugler (March): Ohio State S Malik Hooker ESPN's Todd McShay (March): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore NJ Advance Media's Darryl Slater (March): North Carolina QB Mitch Trubisky CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco (March): Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes II NJ Advance Media's Dan Duggan (March): LSU RB Leonard Fournette Bleacher Report's Kristopher Knox (March): Ohio State S Malik Hooker Bleacher Report's Matt Miller (March): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore SB Nation's Dan Kadar (March): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (March): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NJ Advance Media's Matt Lombardo (March): LSU RB Leonard Fournette Some of these picks are old but I count 15 out of 50 picking a QB, even if you only do March and April it would be 7 of 23 picking a QB. Before I came across that article I looked at CBSSports.com, NFL.com, Walter Football, Draftek, Matt Miller, Fox Sports, USA Today, SI.com, Newsday and came up with 4 of 19 having the Jets pick a QB at 6. Some are duplicates of the other list but still nowhere near half have the Jets picking a QB. I don't think any QB in this draft is worth the 6th pick, much better value will be there at that pick.
The rest of the list I referenced, post was too long Pro Football Focus' Steve Palazzolo (February): Clemson QB Deshaun Watson NJ Advance Media's James Kratch (February): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NFL Media's Charley Casserly (February): Alabama LB Reuben Foster NJ Advance Media's Darryl Slater (February): Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (February): Clemson QB Deshaun Watson CBSSports.com's Rob Rang (February): Clemson QB Deshaun Watson ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. (February): LSU RB Leonard Fournette Bleacher Report's Matt Miller (February): Ohio State S Malik Hooker SB Nation's Dan Kadar (February): LSU RB Leonard Fournette ESPN's Todd McShay (February): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore CBSSports.com's Dane Brugler (February): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore SB Nation's Dan Kadar (January): North Carolina QB Mitch Trubisky CBSSports.com's Rob Rang (January): Clemson QB Deshaun Watson NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah (January): Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. (January): Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore Pro Football Focus (January): Florida CB Jalen Tabor NJ Advance Media's Darryl Slater (January): Florida CB Jalen Tabor SB Nation's Dan Kadar (January): Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (January): Michigan DB/LB Jabrill Peppers Bleacher Report's Matt Miller (January): Alabama OLB Tim Williams WalterFootball.com (January): North Carolina QB Mitch Trubisky NJ Advance Media's Darryl Slater (December): Alabama OLB Tim Williams ESPN's Todd McShay (December): Alabama OLB Tim Williams Bleacher Report's Ryan McCrystal (December): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (December): LSU RB Leonard Fournette WalterFootball.com (November): LSU RB Leonard Fournette NJ Advance Media's Connor Hughes (November): Michigan DB/LB Jabrill Peppers
Bottom line, I believe Mac drafts a quarterback in the first round, whether at 6, or lower should they trade down or trade back into the first round.
Trading down and taking a QB has always been an interesting option. Trading down and taking two QB's might even be in order. 6 for the 12 and the 33 and take 2 of the 4 QB's and have one to trade in a year or two and the better one playing QB for us. This would the "take off and nuke it from orbit because it's the only way to be sure" option.
We can't take a qb Mahomes or anyone in the 2nd round. Trade that freaking pick like it's hot....Up or down just get the hell out of the 2nd round. Do we never learn?
