More Hackenberg...

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'm lost to the reality that this team blows chunks and the Pats are well-built.

    If you want to keep throwing shit against the wall in the hope it sticks instead of stinks, well have at it and enjoy the smell. Me, I'd rather live through the bad season(s) to get the QB and LT we need to actually build a championship caliber offense.
     
  2. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I would never root for them to tank, even though it would give them the best draft picks, but also I don't think the Jets could even tank properly. They would do like they always do when they suck: win 4 or 5 games and be in draft purgatory.

    But starting Petty, Hack, or Draftee, and letting them try and become their FQB is what I hope for. McCown is simply "disaster insurance".
     
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    Greensleeves Well-Known Member

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    Who is it proving detrimental to? The media and the fans? So what. The people in the building know whether Hack can be their guy or not. That's all that really matters at this point. The media is just grasping at straws and we have even less of a clue than they do. I have no idea, but I think the like him and he'll have his chances to start or play this year at some point. Extremely doubtful IMO that they draft a QB - no-one worthy at 6. Plus, if they like Hack, whomever they choose later in the first (trade-down) or second will be behind Hack in development. Just guessing though.
     
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  4. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

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    my bad, video was already posted
     
  5. Ralebird

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    Fake fans want a tank party. Real fans don't want to give up an inch. Ever.
     
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  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I've seen enough 4-12 in my life to know that all it leads to is 9-7 or 10-6 and then back to 4-12 again.

    No more 4-12 thank you very much. If the choice this year is between 4-12 or 2-14 I'm all for 2-14, bring it on. I want that 1 pick instead of sitting on the 6 again...

    On the first pick of the 2018 draft the ________ select ____ ________. If that's a QB being picked it better be the Jets doing the picking because none of the guys in this year's draft are likely to amount to a hill of beans but they'll spin us in circles for 3 years before we know that for a fact.

    The worst case is we take DeShaun Watson and he starts day 1 and we're 2-2 after a month and then the film rolls in and we're 6-10 at the end of the year and nowhere near the top pick even if we could afford to spend another pick on a QB at that point.
     
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  7. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

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    Everything you say tells me that we have the wrong leadership. And it starts at the top. We are going to keep hiring losers because the owner is a bit of a loser
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Things look pretty shitty right now, but I think there is a glimmer of hope in Hack, Leonard Williams, Jordan Jenkins, Lee, Burris, and a lot of other young players. As long as there are players on this team worth rooting for, I can't root for them to lose and tank.
     
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  9. Br4d

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    Woody Johnson has the mindset of the successful franchises of the 70's and 80's. Build the run game and the defense and championships will follow. The problem is that that mindset last worked in the 90's with the Cowboys and truth be told it was already going out of style by then.

    We need a 21st century makeover. Until then we're going to keep getting schooled by the Patriots, because they almost invented the new NFL, with big assists from Kurt Warner, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre.
     
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  10. Br4d

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    BTW, I gave the impression above that I think this is a worthless QB class. It's not. One of these guys is likely to be good. One is likely to be serviceable. However, like 2014, figuring out who is who is next to impossible and two or three of them are going to suck. It could be the guy taken in the 6th round this year who turns out to be great, just like it was in another weak QB class in 2000 or it could be the 4th guy taken like in 2014.
     
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    What you say about Woody implies that he has a plan or vision, and he has neither, that's the main problem. The Jets need an architect who knows ow to build a winning franchise. Until then, they're wandering blind in the woods.
     
  12. Br4d

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    I do not believe that Woody does not have a plan.

    Too many similarities in his hires over the years, all defensive head coaches, most 1st rounders spent on the defensive side of the ball, big contracts mostly on the defensive side of the ball, trade ups in the draft often on the defensive side of the ball, free agent builds often set up for ground and pound, etc.

    There's too much smoke in that direction for me to believe it is all coincidental.
     
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    I want to think that Woody for once is staying out of the way and letting Mac and Bowles do their thing their way. Woody, said there is no playoff mandate, perhaps he could be lying but the Jets are doing their due diligence on these QBs and the offense.

    We've seen an offense in 2016 we haven't seen in a LONG time. We are getting decent young receivers. It's not the same as the Rex Ryan days, I just hope they allow Mac and Bowles to do what they need to do and NOT interfere. Jets need a QB no doubt, but they also need an opportunistic defense to make plays like the SB Saints.
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Yep MCC showed so many smarts last year that he took Hack over Dak. The only thing MCC should be in charge of is a stinky toilet IMHO:mad:
     
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    he isn't a bust until he's a bust Champ. Gotta see him play with actual preparation in Training Camp.
     
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    Not exactly standing up for Mac but every GM passed on Dak till the 4th. If any of them knew what he was going to be what we saw he would have gone in the 1st. I guess they should all go to the shitter.
     
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    It's funny watching other posters trying to have a conversation with Champ.
     
  18. BigSnacks54

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    I'm not opposed to tanking, but what makes you think that next year's class will have a sure fire star? It could easily be like this year's class or 2016 where 2 teams reached for mediocre prospects .
     
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    Getting the #1 pick doesn't always mean things will go great from there on out. The best QBs in the league weren't necessarily drafted at #1, and a lot of those teams weren't tanking to get those QBs. It was pure opportunity. Jets had their shot with Carr and missed it. Hopefully they will have another chance in the near future. Very near future.
     
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  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It's been about enough time since the last no-brainer in 2012. It might be 2019 instead but that would mean the big Junior stayed in school.

    Luck was a Junior.
    So was Peyton when he spurned the Jets in '97.
     

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