If the jets stay at 6...

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  1. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    My vote is that the jets should trade down early and often, starting with their first round pick. They have the least talented roster in their division, and a coach who would not know how to use a talented roster if he had it. However, IF the jets stay at 6, my vote is they take running back Fournette, and use him with Powell. He has lost a ton of weight since the combine, and he might give the same kind of impact that Freeman McNeil provided in his second year and beyond. Think about it-- if the jets are rebuilding, what good is it to have Old goat McNown handing off the greybeard Forte (yes, Bowles will play both of them all the time if they are on the roster--he loves washed out vets (Revis, Fitz))? Take Fournette, move Forte during the draft for whatever you can get, even if it is a big cap hit on Forte. Then at least the jets will have one player on offense that qualifies as a playmaker. The current offense (save Decker) IMO does not have much playmaking ability. Build an OL and get an edge rusher with the rest of your top selections. Go ahead and slam my choice now...
     
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    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    If we had 2/3rds of the trifecta, i would say yes BUT we do not have the QB nor the WR.....

    The RB is usually the last piece, not the first.

    But these are the jets so maybe it will work in reverse order.
     
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    I pray to the good lord we don't draft a RB or TE with the 6th pick....
     
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  4. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Definitely has to be Jonathan Allen. Not only is he BPA but Mo Wilk is a big ? and Richardson is one strike away. Now is the time to beef up THE DEFENSIVE LINE.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If they do take Fournette they should rotate him with Forte and Powell year one. 200 touches tops, ideally more like 150 carries tops to preserve the tread in what will be a down year.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Malik Hooker
    Jamal Adams
    Reuben Foster
    OJ Howard

    Best 4 options in no order.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I sure hope that you're being sarcastic or just trying to elicit a big reaction! LOL
     
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    Tom, unless the Jets are able to trade SR, they will not be able to trade Forte because they don't and won't have the cap space to absorb the cap hit they'd take.

    I love Fournette, but unfortunately, he isn't the best answer for the Jets. I think the Jets won't be truly competitive (from a roster talent perspective) until at least 2018, and it may be 2019 or 2020. By then Fournette's career could be winding down. I think it would be better to add one of Howard, Adams, Hooker or Foster, as they could still be with the team and entering their prime once the team is competitive and ready to roll.
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Allen is a strange beast. 6'3" 286 5.0 40 and was not on the field on running downs. Strange...
     
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    Yeah I really don't know why he is getting so.much attention. Sure he was good when he played but the whole Alabama defense was good. But who knows. I think he's to slow to play on the outside and to small to play on the inside
     
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    Allen shouldn't even be in the conversation for the Jets. If Mac is even seriously considering taking him, then he should be fired now before the draft. Taking another DL in the first round would be mind-numbingly stupid! I think I just lost a few IQ points even reading Allen's name in conjunction with the #6 pick for the Jets. Anyone who seriously thinks that the Jets should take Allen at #6 should be banned from all Jets fan sites permanently.
     
  12. Martin&theJETS

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    LOL :D
     
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    running game needs improvement, blocking needs improvement, , offense needs a playmaker. i wonder if there is a player who could improve all of those.
     
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    tight end in round 1? Maybe, maybe if they trade down to the end of round 1. At pick number 6? Never IMO.
     
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    I think we should assume Sheldon will be moved, before or during the draft. Then again, I would have assumed Ryan Fitzpatrick would have ridden some serious bench after tossing 6 picks v. Kansas City, or we would be going for it on 4th down and 6 from our own 46 down by 11 on the road with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter. You cannot assume much with this team. I still think a "rebuilding" team can do better than grizzled vet QB McNown and old man RB Forte getting all the playing time, which they will under Todd "the old vets WILL play" Bowles.
     
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    1990 Flashback: Blair Thomas
     
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    The only way to improve is to add a player who'd immediately translate into more points.
    Stay at 6 and draft Jake Elliott; trade up if you have to.

    C'mon, Macc make it happen.
     
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    From what I hear, Jabrill Peppers is your man!!!!
     
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    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    I'm only half kidding

    But Macc seems to do well late

    I'm ok to trade down a lot to accumulate many picks for 2017

    Go 1-15 , fire Bowles, and then take Darnold in 2018
     
  20. Pags2112

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    I don't like most if any prospects that could be available at 6 except for Fournette. The top edge rusher WILL be gone, and given the state of our team, we need either as close to a "can't miss" prospect or talent in bunches. The only position to me that breaks the drafting rules is Quarterback, IMO theres no such thing as reaching or deeming a draft slot as "too valueable" when it comes to selecting one. If you like a QB, you take him when and where you need to, and I don't see the Jets selecting a QB. So the arrow points to -> Talent in bunches. My honest opinion is the Jets will select to trade down, getting more value for their selection and adding a few more picks in the process. If they do not trade down the 6, then it's because IMO, they REALLY like who's available, and have plans to package a pick with perhaps Richardson, to move into as early as round 2. Romo's retirement could open up such a window. Teams such as the Texans might opt to leapfrog into the 6 slot, IF they covet one of the QB's on the block. BUT, I wouldn't be angered if the Jets selected Fournette. Actually, I would be excited.

    Pettenberg should by now realize this is going to be their chance to be the starting QB for the New York Jets, and for 1 of them, probably their last chance. A RB with the skill set that Fournette posseses will alleviate the weight on the shoulders of the young gun that comes out the starter. Defenses will need to plan for Fournette as he's MORE than the battering ram RB a lot of Folks think him to be. IMO he lowers his shoulders when he needs to, preferring to use his vision and speed burst, looking for big gains, over 2 yard brute force carries. The vision and burst a kickoff and punt returner posses, hats Fournette also wore at LSU. He on ANY carry, can either break a 20 yard + gain, or take it to the house. Before the high ankle sprain, he made more would be tacklers miss than he bowled over. I saw more Chris Johnson then I did Jerome Bettis. Fournette can line up as a receiver, forcing defenses to prepare for more than just screen passes. If Hackenberg wins the job, his play action fake to Fournette, can open up many a pass up the middle to our TE and FB. Oh yes Jets fans, we will be resurrecting those positions. A weapon like that is something I always wished the Jets had. A weapon that can turn any modest 4-5 yard gain by any other RB, into 6 points.

    I subscribe to the magazine, "RB's are a dime a dozen type of player that can be found in later rounds." But Fournette is not a player of that mold, and as many experts and posters have mentioned, a prospect that only comes along every so often. As for his durability, Adrian Peterson was injury prone, and heading into the NFL many scouts thought he was not built to last. Besides Fournettes ankle injury, and that does concern me, there's not really much to talk about. You'd think such a ferocious runner would have more injury notches on his bed post. IMO, I can see Fournette having a similar career to Peterman, with better stats in the receivIng department.

    Now let's factor in the "Woody Factor." The butts in the seats factor. Adding a prime offensive playmaker like Fournette can electrify an offense and a fan base for that matter. Not to mention it will also sell a TON of merchandise, more than adding a DeFenSive Player would. Anyway, I am saying if we pick at 6, let it be Fournette. Give me a home run swinger. Someone capable of adding points on shere will, and talent, on any play!
     
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