More Hackenberg...

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  1. nicg4360

    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

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    As I stated I am not in favor....He is much more valuable to come in and help if the young guys struggle. He is of no value sitting on the bench injured. All I stated was that if they go that route that will inevitably be what happens. He was seriously injury prone last year and he's a year older on top of that he had all world LT protecting his blind side. Mac should realize this.
     
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    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    This is why I think they have a QB targeted in round 1. McCown is a backup, that's all he ever was and will ever be. To suggest he could be the starter at age 37 is ludicrous. If his name was Romo, that would be different. If you're rebuilding, ideally you want to rebuild around a guy you have confidence in and can lead the team to victory for many years to come. You're going to want to bring in players that complement your guy. I don't see that the Jets have that confidence in either Petty or Hackenberg. So that leaves the draft. When you draft a QB in round 1 (as opposed to any other round), it presupposes a financial and confidence commitment to that guy. The organization has to justify this commitment by doing everything it can to help this guy succeed. Don't think the Jets ever had that approach with Petty or Hackenberg, because there was no need to. There was no large financial outlay. If they made it, great, if not, no huge loss.
     
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  3. nicg4360

    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

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    It appears to be a huge issue with Hack being such a mystery. People say he sucks people say give him his chance etc etc etc. When in reality no one knows and it's proving detrimental. I just hope Mac knows so he can right this ship in the direction it needs to go.
     
  4. Cman69

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    I hope Mac realizes he doesn't have forever to get this done either.. What might sink him quicker is big bad contracts.
     
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    I think Woody is going to ride out Mac's tenure with the Jets, unless we go 1-15, 2-14, or 3-13
     
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    We are probably going 1-15, 2-14 or 3-13.

    Lol
     
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    Good news then, we have a decent enough shot at #1 pick then. Nothing worse then 4-12 and 5-11 records.
     
  8. nicg4360

    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

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    Best case scenario we get the number 1 overall while hack proves he is the FQB of the jets then we trade out of that pick for a kings ransom so someone can draft Darnold. Sets this franchise up quite nicely imo.
     
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    The worst part of keeping hack under wraps is people talk and speculate because that's what fans do. Even though they wanted this redshirt year it may have helped letting hack play Garbage time so people could get a glimpse, anything. Because I do admit it has a certain feeling of something being masked although I'm thinking that's not the case.
     
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  10. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Nah, best case scenario the Jets go (16-0) with Hackenberg at QB, then dominate in the playoffs, leading to a Super Bowl LII victory and a perfect (19-0) season.
     
  11. Mogriffjr

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    It's just a new age of media coverage. Rodgers sat a TON of time before he played. I mean what's the harm in sitting Hack for another year? It's just everyone wants it now now
     
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    I just posted the exact same view in another thread! That to me is the best case scenario.. if Darnold has a similar year AND declares .. the number 1 pick will be one of the most valuable picks EVER! A kings ransom is taking it lightly .. a team can add some serious talent with all the picks it will acquire.

    Hackenberg doesn't need to be a Hall Of Famer for us to win Super Bowls .. just slightly above average with the ability to put together a few above average years and or late season hot streaks. As long as he is steady, has weapons and we combine in a good defense, we should be successful.

    Skrine had some positives things to say as per article I read this morning:

    Christian improved every day," Skrine told NJ Advance Media this weekend at Life Time Athletic in Manhattan, where he hosted an interval class to raise money for several charities. "I like him. I like him a lot. From Year 1 to Year 2? That's a big jump for a quarterback."

    "He has a good arm and every tool," Skrine said. "All it takes is some playing time. He'll get his shot. He was taken in the second round. So [management] have trust in him."
     
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    I look at it the other way .. I think they pretty much said up front that the kid wasn't good enough to play yet. I actually like that they stuck to their decision .. it's all on Hack now. There's going to be no hiding anything whatsoever come camp!
     
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    Yea but then we'd lose out on Darnold lol.
     
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    Careful.. I hear they can discover a lot of things using DNA samples these days.
     
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    If you are trying to say TDK is taking some mind altering substances I would have to say you are wrong, he just had some of what I have been drinking.

     
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    i'll admit when the Jets drafted Hack I hated it. Then I convinced myself to love it. Now I'm back to reality in hating hit. The guy was a tremendous reach, and he's just not very good. Bottom line is that when a 2nd round QB can't even get pads on in the type of year we had last year, we have significant problems.
     
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    I get why you think it was questionable why he did not dress with the season we had but also two factors play into this...We know 100% Bowles is Bowles and will play vets till the end meaning Fitz would start if available no questions asked. I'm sure he pulled Fitz due to the down games he had but it was inevitable once petty and Geno were injured he would jump at the chance to get Fitz out there.
    Secondly the jets said hack would sit the entire year. They stayed true to their word. I see nothing wrong with that. In hind sight I think they probably felt they Ill prepared him to start with playing with the first team and working with gailey so when givin the opportunity he could not go in. I'd say it was more on the jets than Fitz he could not come in.
     
  19. cval

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    We have no idea you just need to relax a bit until we find out if he is any good. I agree it looked like a reach pick at the time but not getting him on the field last year is a good thing he was not ready and they stuck to their plan. It also gave them time to evaluate Petty.

    If all the crap about him being able to read defenses he might have a chance to succeed. I think it is long shot based on his college performance and accuracy issues. I will wait and see to decide if he is good or not.
     
  20. nicg4360

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    I also really am pulling for hack rather than jumping on the tank for Darnold bus because I would much rather look at other blue chip talent each year rather than continuing to burn picks on QBs. It eventually becomes a waste of premium picks.
     
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