Got to give McCagnan an A so far. Jets will be good in 2019

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  1. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    5 million less than last year. We are improving!!
     
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  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This guy is a good backup QB. He's been all over the place, worked for a lot of OCs and HCs, and when he has come in for spot work he looks decent. By all reports he is an even keeled teammate and it sounds like he's over trying to be a starter.

    His health is secondary unless the Jets try to do the unthinkable and make him a starter.

    The anger in this thread is likely from Fitz-trauma or spurred on by emotions custom-spurred by dickhead sports writers.

    The real problem is that there is no clear starter at QB in March. Which is a valid concern, but it's still March. And the fears are validated by the fact that the team was ready to go with Geno 2 years ago and ended up going all in with a career backup.

    Sooooo... I understand the panic posts in this thread, because there's no reason to believe this FO/CS has learned a lesson. But there's also a chance that history won't repeat itself.
     
  3. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Too many people seem to be under the impression that the jets are thinking about being chasing the playoffs are something this year...

    We are the 76ers right now. Trust the process. Winning is not an option!
     
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    Get ready for the unthinkable. Bowles will default this guy as the opening day starter, which will cut into Petty and Hack's reps and set them up for failure. Its going to happen.

    If they draft a QB they will either go with 4 QB's again or cut Petty and have noone behind McCown who has played in a game. Or they dont draft a QB and a few of these prospects pan out. The Jets will be the team that had a high draft pick and could have grabbed their guy in the 2nd round but opted to sign a 37 year old QB rather than draft the next Derek Carr. You know with these Jets that is a high probability.

    And if being all over the place, working for alot of OC's and HC's is evidence McCown is a good backup, then Fitz was the best backup that ever lived. Fitz was an awesome mentor to the young guys. Did you know he graduated from Harvard?
     
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    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

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    If they decide to go with 4 QB's with McCown the starter by the 2-3 game it will be back to 3qbs because McCown will be firmly planted on IR. He was injury prone the last 2-3 years and he's only getting older...His style of play does him no favors but it's fun to watch!
     
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    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    As long as Petty and Hack don't get punched in the face, we'll be fine. Then again, one of Hack's errant throws might break Petty's jaw.
     
  7. ChrebetCrunch

    ChrebetCrunch Well-Known Member

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    To be fair to Idzik, Macc cleared up cap room for contracts he signed. The big difference between Idzik and Macc is that Idzik whiffed on his drafts whereas Macc has done some nice things.
     
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  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Petty's jaw may be big, but it's not the size of an ocean.
     
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    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Mac hit on a higher percentage of his picks than Idzik, but with fewer picks overall (which is Mac's fault because he traded them away) he has to do better than that. So far he's only gotten one starting caliber player in Leo. He has a few who might be starters in the future, but overall his drafts look below league average.
     
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    JethroTull 2018 Least Knowledgeable Poster

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    Plus he drafted two QB's that make Geno Smith look like a hall of farmer
     
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    ChrebetCrunch Well-Known Member

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    Let's not get into a Macc vs Idzik pissing contest, because there is no comparison between the two. Idzik had 12 picks in 2014 to rebuild the team and whiffed on all of them with the exception of diamond in the rough Enunwa. Two drafts, three players remaining on the team. Let's not be silly now.
     
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    So you're saying there's a chance?
     
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    other then drafting Leonard williams with the 6th pick in 2015 and that was a GIFT. Any GM could have did that. All his other draft picks have not looked good and his FA/trades only lasted 1 season.
     
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    You have to give draft picks at least two years to develop. Also Bowles coaching staff has been mediocre in getting the best out of players. You know this from some free agents looking worse in Jet Green than they did in other uniforms. Guys like Forte, Skrine, Gilchrist, McClendon all had better play elsewhere.
     
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  16. jago

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    I think signing McCown is consistent with rebuilding. Either hack or petty show they can step it up and beat him out or he simply holds the reins and shows professionalism. The QB must be at least be a leader and example. A struggling and immature QB is a huge distraction and hurts the development of the rest of the young players.


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    McCowns record speaks for itself....2-20 I can imagine the teams he won against lol

    Newsflash: We are not winning in 2017...Toilet Bowles can play whomever he wants at QB but gut says same results
     
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  18. JulesWinfield89

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    The jets wont be good until Woody Johnson dies or (hopefully) sells the team the title of this thread should be changed
     
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Mac has traded away a few picks, but Idzik had 12 picks in 2014, and I don't think he did anything to add those extra picks.
     
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    "So, recapping, in the 2015 offseason, Maccagnan gave up a fifth-round pick and a seventh-round pick for . . . two of the biggest pieces in the Jets’ best offensive season in franchise history."

    MACCAGNAN’S TRADES
    2015

    3/10
    Jets Receive
    WR Brandon Marshall
    7th-round pick (#224)
    (traded to SL for RB Zack Stacy)

    Chi Receive
    2015 5th-round pick

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    3/11
    Jets Receive
    Ryan Fitzpatrick

    Hou Receive
    2016 6th-round pick (#195)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    5/1
    Jets Receive
    WR DeVier Posey
    2015 3rd-round pick (#82) (LB Lorenzo Mauldin)
    2015 5th-round pick (#152) (OL Jarvis Harrison)
    2015 7th-round pick(#229)

    Hou Receive
    2015 3th-round pick (#70)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    5/2
    Jets Receive
    2015 4th-round pick (#103) (QB Bryce Petty)

    Jets RB Zac Stacy

    Jax Receives
    2015 4th-round pick (#104)
    2015 7th-round pick (#229)

    SL Receive
    2015 7th-round pick (#224)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    2016
    4/9
    Jets Receive
    T Ryan Clady
    2016 7th-round pick (#235) (P Lachlan Edwards)

    Den Receive
    2016 5th-round pick (#157)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    4/30
    Jets Receive
    2016 6th-round pick (#158) (OL Brandon Shell)

    Wash Receive
    2017 4th-round pick (TBD)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
     
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