I don't think that J Marshall will be with the team next year after his suspension is complete. Decker is not guaranteed to stay healthy, that leaves 3 receivers, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake. I'm not advocating taking a WR with the 6th pick, but they could use one of their 3rds to grab one if there are any left.
You may be right, but I don't think that they'll be that quick to give up on J. Marshall. Why should they? He's cheap and young and pretty fast. You forgot D. Smith. Maybe you're not counting on him developing, but I think he has a chance at least. I agree that they could use a #1 WR, but with all the holes they have, there's just no way they all can be filled this year. I think that one can make a valid argument for why any of the positions where we have holes should be filled this year instead of waiting. I think getting a 2-way TE is more important than WR because it will help the young QB to have a reliable safety valve, he'll be able to help with pass protection and help with the rushing attack. I also think that getting a workhorse, starting-quality RB is more important as neither Powell nor Forte can function as a starter.
I'm not counting on Smith right now, I would like him to do something other than take up a roster spot. J Marshal is not irreplaceable, his contribution to the jets were very pedestrian. I believe Mac can have a good draft if he sticks to value and BPA, 2, 3rd round picks should help.
Agree completely. Let's face it, with Fitz at the helm, Smith had very little chance of developing. His speed and long routes were wasted and with a chance of getting killed with under-thrown balls. So who knows how he can develop with a QB with and arm and some zip. Anderson was able to grow real fast, so I'm hoping. I'm warming up more and more to getting aTE high in the draft. Take the pressure off our QB. Add a bruiser RB and we are in for a for a decent fight.
Anderson is a more complete WR than Smith was, and I'm not looking at the speed factor alone. Anderson runs better routes and has better hands than Smith, and that was with Fitz as his starting QB. Smith is raw in every aspect with the exception of his speed, his routes were not clean and he just struggled overall to get on the field when healthy. This might be a make or break year for Smith, the Jets should use him as a returner in place of JMarshal for the first four games and see if that can help him get on track.
On second thought, after thinking about this signing and understanding where the Jets are and where Kelvin Beachum is, I don't think this is a good signing at all. Here's why: 1) I don't doubt who Kelvin Beachum can become. He sucked with the Jaguars, but he had a bad season and everyone can have one of those. He has the kind of ability where he could be our LT for the foreseeable future. 2) Beachum needs to be coached up and our CS sucks. You see it endlessly on this site how Toilet sucks? We have a bad CS that has failed two seasons straight now. Toilet threw his subordinates under the bus two seasons running now and really I think Woody should have fired everyone? So it warrants mentioning that unless suddenly Toilet has become a much better HC, he will fail to get Beachum to play at his best. Beachum will not be good player for us. 3) But as I mentioned already, Beachum is a good player for 2018 and beyond when Woody hires a competent HC and CS.
Why don't you define "suck" first, then carry on? I am asking because - Jaguars OL overall did about a mediocre job. [1 less sack, 1 less QB hit, 0.1 YPC less per rush compared to jets OL performance - all about 15-17th in the league.] I am not saying Jets OL is a barometer of success - just, wouldn't it be fair to say Beachum would be [serviceable]? It's not like Jags had an all-pro QB bailing them out either. [Blake Bortles is pretty clueless in the pocket if you know what I mean.] Of course I am not saying I am happy with where the things are; just remember this team didn't have a starter quality LT even a few days ago. That is not the case any more. It could have been much worse - especially if Ramczyk ends up at #6 pick and starting.
Well, I would define an OL most closely by the number of QB pressures. There's a lot more to it, but that's the most obvious sign. Beachum had a bad year because he allowed 49 QB pressures in 2016 and the Jaguars declined a 5 year 40 million dollar option on him. I don't pretend to think the Jets, or somehow us fans, know better than the coaches that worked with him every day? There's a reason why the Jags declined that option. He had a 1 year audition and it did not go well. Also it bears mentioning that ironically Beachum settled for LESS years at the same salary with the Jets when he would have gotten 5 years instead of 3 with the Jets. That pretty much tells me Beachum and his agent knew he had a down year and had no choice but to accept a somewhat LESSER offer from the Jets.
Hopefully we get the Beachum of the Steelers versus the one that was with the Jags. I think he will have a resurgence with the Jets and in general I like the direction our line is moving in. All are relatively young which is great for rebuilding
After one signing to a player coming off a subpar season and the Jets cutting a hall of famer, and gaping holes at Center and Right Tackle, you actually LIKE the general direction the line is moving in? With as many holes as this team has and staring at a Cleveland Browns type season you actually LIKE this? Pardon me for being objective, but this fucking sucks.
Why does an LT who was one of the better ones in the league, before his injury, need to be coached up? He was still suffering from some soreness in his knee last year, with a full off season of rest and PT he should be back to his pre-injury level of play. I doubt the CS will have too much of an effect, good or bad, on his play. They also cut the sacks allowed from 51 to 32 last year. You can also look at his contract another way, he still got $8M a year and if he gets selected to the Pro Bowl any of the first 2 years he can option out of the contract and become a FA at 29 year old, setting himself up for another possible payday.
Lol this is awful and some people are acting like this is great...I'll be happy when we are back in the playoffs which right now looks very far away.We won't be back there until this entire regime is fired then after the new regime wastes three more years and they all get fired the third coach from now may get us to 9-7 and sneak us in to the playoffs, but he will go 2-14 the following year leading to another rebuild.
Some of this whining cry baby boo hoo shit is the same bs that was said about Brandon Moore, Matt Slauson, and Brian Winters recently. If they're not a first round pick and anointed All Pro, by somebody else mind you, "they suck". Some fans see a couple of bad plays in the beginning and that's all they can wrap they're heads around, ever. Nevermind the player is a developmental player and it takes time. Nevermind the good things the player does or the signs that he's actually improving on what he needs to, or that it's obvious. No, the player makes a mistake and "see,he sucks, he's garbage wah wah wah wah wah". The OL is a unit and it takes practice and time to see whether it's good or bad. It'll be interesting to see how this group develops and to see what else Mac does to improve it.
Mangold was getting old, Clady can't stay healthy, we re-signed Ijalana (ok signing, perhaps good depth), Brian Winters, Beachum are legitimate signings, and we tendered Wesley Johnson we will be signing him shortly unless someone offers 2nd round pick. Our o-line is not like the Cowboys, but I think we have a middling group. The key is the the group is young, which no one could say in 2016. And finally, we actually have some depth at the tackle position Shell, Qvale, Ijalana
From an article on nyjets.com: http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...Early-On/d6c469c6-569f-462c-ac17-198628188c0d I think these comments are very enlightening. They clarify whether or not Mac has a "plan." I like Beachum's experience and attitude. I think we may have a pretty good LT for at least the next 2-3 years.
Because EVERYONE needs coaching, dude. That's just common sense. This to say nothing about the fact he came from being a developmental 7th round draft choice. He's also coming off a subpar season. He NEEDS to be coached up. And dare I say he needs more coaching than say James Carpenter and Brian Winters? Carpenter has been pretty consistent and Winters play has been on the rise over the last two seasons IMO. And you are not attempting to shoot down my assertion that the CS sucks, therefore you must believe at least somewhat? In order for Beachum to become a player on par with who he was with the Steelers, he will need good players next to him and he will still need coaching to get back to where he was. I question whether this CS can do that job. I don't know if I'm ready to call Toilet the reincarnation of Rich Kotite, but he's definitely nowhere even close to a great HC like BB. As much as I hate fessing up to that.........
Not saying there doesn't need to be some coaching but to claim he sucked and, it seems, asserting he will still suck due to the coaching staff is ridiculous. There have been countless great players that played for terrible coaches yet were still great. Mind you I am not calling Beachum great but he was one of the better LTs in the league a couple of years ago and I see no reason he can't get back to that no matter who the coaching staff is.
Beachum was an ok signing. Nothing to get excited about but he's a competent LT and that will help the young QB's and the Jets didn't pay though the nose for him and that makes him an affordable keep for the next few years. He's going to be gone by 2020 but hopefully he helped the Jets stabilize in the process. I also like picking up ex-Steelers. I think it's good for the locker room although Holmes was an obvious exception to the rule.
