This one is a gem. From a source you football fans can relate to http://deadspin.com/donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-how-much-time-h-1792611828
How many would it deter if getting caught meant prison then deportation? I'm betting the long term costs would go down once everyone understood the new consequences.
the court system would be just overwhelmingly flooded with new cases. we're talking millions more court cases per year... millions more prisoners. back to my original thought? is that really worth it? now it's already a misdemeanor for someone to illegally enter the country. it is not a crime however to be in the country without authorization. So I am assuming you'd want to change that distinction. You also have to figure that each case would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt like everything else in our country. what a mess. and just to send a message to poor farmers trying to better themselves. sounds crazy to me
What is the consequence? Being returned to where you belong? I think they should be shipped off to a country like Sierra Leone, doesn't cost as much as incarceration and less likely to come back.
You keep saying "trying to better themselves" as if it is an excuse for knowingly breaking the law. if they want it bad enough they can do it right. millions have. and it would be worth those millions of extra cases a year if it started dwindling down year after year.
I am not using that as an excuse, its just a fact of life, you can view it negatively if you want. and it absolutely would not be worth it to try and put all these folks in prison. It would be a tremendous endeavor. I'll acknowledge however that it is a better idea than the pathetic wall one our president dreamed up though
I like the wall, always liked public work projects. somewhere along the wall we can build a hotel and casino and call it the dt45's wall hotel and casino,no way we could use the actual trump name, and that place would get an influx of revenue and people would start new businesses. of course they would hire illegals because the wall wouldn't stop anybody .
In 2014 federal prisons cost about $84 a day per prisoner. New York City prisons cost more than twice that. Let's see that show of hands again for imprisonment.
The immediate costs would be incredible. We would have to arrest millions of illegals and give them all a lawyer and trial by jury. Then we would have to pay for their custody. Instead of working like they are now, they'd be 100% dependent on taxpayer money. A pathway to citizenship might sound like a bleeding heart proposal, but even that would be much better for the economy. So forget about human rights, if you care about our economy, imprisonment is a non-starter.
Coming here illegally isn't a felony like dealing drugs or stealing things. We have other laws that you don't go to jail for breaking, illegal immigration is more comparable to those.
Wait till you have a few hundred, put them in a rickety boat just off the coast with enough gas to get there. Another idea, get caught in the U.S. illegally, work camp building the wall.
You realize that would be an act of war? Work camp is a better idea, but you'd have to persuade me that would be a net positive for the economy without infringing on basic human rights.
I think it's hilarious that you're obsessed with immigrants. Did some immigrant take your job? But you are not concerned at all about Trump making millions at Mar-a-lago at government expense, or other costs: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/22/the-shallow-state-trump/ "The NEA’s annual budget is smaller than that required to provide protection for Melania Trump." Ron
I think we could send in the Girl Scouts if Sierra Leone caused a fuss, about all it would take. Human rights are for citizens, 12 hour work days and gruel is what they'll get.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...-plan-cost-billions-experts-article-1.2978950 "The total price tag would be $100 billion to $300 billion, the group estimates. The sheer cost of Trump’s hardline efforts isn’t the only economic pain that will be felt if millions are deported. Brian Garcia, a legal advocate for immigrant youth, told the Arizona Republic the “change in policy places a priority on hurting families” who “come to the U.S. to work, pursue an education, and contribute to our economy.” According to an analysis from the American Action Forum, a conservative-leaning think tank, the U.S. economy could shrink by $1.6 trillion over the next 20 years as a result of the deportations." We gotta get rid of them! They're coming through the windows!! I heard it on Fox news!!! AAAAAUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH....... Ron
Cool, so we're gonna become the world's biggest bully. Pick on the weak and all that. When I was a kid I didn't get bullied cause I'm not an easy enough target. But I stood up for other kids who needed some help and in the end the bullies and I got on alright when they saw it wasn't worth the trouble. My point is if that's how the US is going to behave, I'm going to go against it because that isn't the kind of country I want to be part of.
thats true, but when we want to curtail a specific crime we tend to stiffen the penalties for that crime, penalties are deterrents as much as they are punishment
Thanks Ralebird http://www.welfareinfo.org/payments/ So assuming a family of 4, 900+500x12= 16,800 84x365=30,600 So, it would cost approximately twice as much to incarcerate one parent than it would to provide welfare benefits to a family of 4. https://openborders.info/human-smuggling-fees/ $3000 per person to get smuggled in, $12k for a family of 4. How do we partner with Mexico to stop the coyotes? Run the country like a business right? How do we undercut the coyotes to make their business model unsustainable?
