I hear where you're coming from, and in an ideal world, the Jets wouldn't sign any FAs. The reality imo is, however, that they have to sign a FA LT. They can't afford to have whomever their starting QB is go down with injuries, or take a pounding. Yes, it would probably only be for a year, maybe two, and cost a small fortune, but until they can draft a new LT and develop him, it's an absolute necessity imo. Until Beachum was cut, I didn't have a lot of hope, but since the Jets brought him in last year, maybe there's a relationship of sorts already, and he'll come here. If what some others posted about him is true (that he's a good pass blocker, but not a very good run blocker), he would be a good choice. Brick wasn't a good run blocker, but he kept the QBs upright and healthy. I could live with that for a couple of years until the Jets can draft an LT. Since they can't fill all their needs in one draft, and since GMs don't want to go into draft feeling like they have to draft a player at a position of need, and we have a lot of needs, we need to sign some FAs. The thing is, we don't have to sign older, expensive, big name FAs. We can sign a bunch of younger, cheaper, second tier FAs to help address needs, improve the depth, create more competition, and hopefully, some of them can help the team for 3-5 years.
1. Geno is a fabulous QB, I hear. He's good at taking brutal beatings while someone grows on the sideline. 2. Building the franchise through premier FA signing = expressway to the mediocrity. You do not want to fill the pillar of the franchise through FA under any circumstance. 3. FA should be used judiciously - You don't get Rodney Harrison all that often after all. Or put it this way; name one franchise LT that was acquired through free agency.
And yet, how many here are clamoring for them to sign one of the FA QBs as "the Answer"? The only thing you're likely to get in FA is poorer.
Free agent pool is deep at DB and Bowles is a DB guy... I think it's very possible after we cut Revis and a few others that we land at least 2 FAs in our secondary, QB, pass rush and LT. I think Glennon will be the guy at QB LT a could see them take a run at Beachum or Matt Khalil Pass rusher they might go for a guy that won't break the bank like a Kruger or Trent Cole. If that all goes down expect Clady(already cut), Revis, Breno, Gilcrist to be cut. Sheldon traded for a pick Harris and Mangold restructured.
I agree. It's clear Mac was pressured into the Revis signing. Remember Johnson's tampering charge and he was pushed into shitzpatric , Bowles repeatedly telling the media fitz was his starter ,even though he wasn't on the roster. Mangold Decker and Marshalls public campaign as well as Johnson publicly stating he wanted shitzpatric back. Mac had no choice but to make those signings.
At least he set up the Revis contract so we have an out this offseason. Yeah we have to eat money but it could be worse. We also lucked out Fitz turned down the rumored 3 year 24 million dollar offer for his one year deal. We get a fresh start this offseason from a lot of what went wrong last season. I hope this organization takes the long view of building for the future instead of overpaying multiple FA's to fool themselves into thinking we can make a playoff run next season.
I we don't have the money, even after cuts to sign Glennon and two DBs a LT and pass rusher. Would still be left with holes at all the spots created by the cuts. With claddy cut we currently have $1.5 million. Need roughly $ 4.5 mill to sign the draft class. So we are in the hole 3 million as of now. Cutting Revis, Breno, Gilchrist , add in Harris , Mangold , Marshall and Sheldon and there's still not enough money to make those signings and that leaves zero flexibility and still doesn't fill our current holes. I don't expect to see any big splash in this off season and hope that we have a quiet FA period picking up a serviceable LT and possibly a bargain or two.
I just posted about FA spending. We simply don't have the money to make those big signings and I agree. I hope that the money freed up releasing some obvious vets isn't thrown at a new group of old, end of their career vets. I'd rather take our lumps next year and in 2018 then go all in, fail and start over. Time to end the cycle.
I seriously doubt if Geno would come back, but even if he would, he shouldn't, for his sake or the team's. No, you don't want to have to sign a FA LT, and in an ideal world, you don't want to have to sign any FAs, but you have to protect your QB, and the reality is that EVERY team signs FAs. I don't know why you responded as you did to my post. I haven't advocated going out and signing a bunch of big name FAs. In fact, I've said the opposite. Even if Geno came back, he got hurt quickly last year, didn't he? The same thing could happen again, and then Petty and/or Hack are taking the beating.
Yeah I meant mostly corner it hasn't been great and you basically named them all. Defensive line has been great development there. LB's...eh....
I think most guys on here are on board with point number 3. No one here wants to allocate a large chunk of money on average players anymore.
I have never wanted the jets to sign FA QBs, my stance has always been that those guys are a bunch of bums. The jets should focus on developing Hack and Petty and if there is a QB in the later rounds of this years draft that they would like to pick up then so be it. I understand you feel differently about the selection of a QB, you have your eye on 2 of the QBs coming out this year, my reason for not selecting either of them is the need for the jets to have a day one starter, I don't think any of the QBs coming out this year will start day one.
From what I hear Mac has a big green and white Piggy Bank behind his desk and is loading it up with the splashy FA $ he would have spent
I think that was due to his drafts, I'm sure your jaw hit the ground just as hard as everyone else's as he bypassed BPA in every round, and other teams just came in and scooped them up.
I think either of those two guys could start Day 1. Would they be great and ready for induction into the HOF? Hell no! But I believe either would be better, if not immediately, then certainly over the long run, than Petty/Hack. Were ANY great QBs mistake free Day 1? If they draft one of them at #6, then I expect they would be given every opportunity to win the starting job, and if they couldn't then try again next year.
An impossible schedule? All I read was that the Pats played a bunch of tomato cans all year and the Jets played virtually the same schedule.
The cornerback position is overrated in importance. If a QB is given time to throw, any DB can look bad. So I'm not for investing big money there. Pass rusher is where the dividends pay off, and I'm not talking about over the hill guys like Jason Taylor or Jason Babin. I think Jason Pierre-Paul might be a FA this year and I think he still might have something in the tank. I would sign him. Even though the Jets are strong on the D line, they don't have a speed rusher like him.
I think it's overrated from the perspective of building your defense around it like Rex Ryan's defenses were. I would definitely go after a top tier CB in FA if it was one of 2 positions I needed to make a run for the SB, like Denver did with Aquib Talib.
Yes, give Brady, Manning, Rogers, guys like that time, and NO CB or Safety will look good. Investing heavily in those areas is like trying to close the barn door after the horses have left. To improve the secondary, the Jets need to improve the pressure on the QB. That's why the only "D" I would be happy with taken before QB/RB/OL would be an elite pass rusher.
