Plus Infinity Been preaching Offense for three years now and I am glad many here are starting to see the light Build a powerhouse offense and your D can rest till needed At 6 lets shock the world and take a OL please
No NC We have other holes on the OL besides LT...... ie center because of Mangolds health Prospective draftees for LT include Cam Robinson or Ryan Ramczyk....or if we wait till later Lamp, G Bowles, A Bisnowaty and Roderick Johnson I think Brandon Shell could use some competition so Byron Bell or Jordan Mills can be gotten cheap in FA We could also trade down if Mac finds some Gems Bellichick does this all the time but some posters are stuck on the same old same old
Agree with the first part, but not the last line. There isn't an OL worth that pick. Take Watson or Mahomes, or if you don't like either, take Fournette, Cook, or Howard. All of these would make a major improvement to the "O" immediately. I'd use the 2nd pick on an OL probably, but as always you need to weigh BPA vs. most pressing hole.
As you said yourself: we could wait until 2nd, maybe 3rd round to get a good OL. BB can trade down because when your whole team is solid you don't need to get such big impact players; when your team is as full of holes as the Jets, you need the big impact players to offset the other holes around him.
Plus 50 % I listed a few #6 OL in my last post to NC that could possibly be considered at vey least FA may solved the OL problem so then yeah some other off talent can be looked at Personally I don't like Watson or Mahomes that early a pick ...imo they just aint that good or project players Howard is a beast and we need a dominant TE But hold on...what offense are we running??? to fit that scheme??? OOps OC is a clueless rookie...You see its a catch 22 That's why Iam calling for an OL its safer pick given a lack of info on OC direction
I can see your point, but we can't draft on the basis of coaching shortcomings. If anything, we ought to draft someone who can overcome poor coaching with his pure ability. I'd put all those I mentioned in that category. And I don't know what you're looking for in a 1st round QB, but whatever "holes" those two guys have, are fixable, and you can't coach their intangibles. I know it's a risk, but it's also high reward. Or looking at it from another perspective, there is NO guarantee that the Jets will even be in a position in 2018 or 19 to draft one of the predicted "super QBs" they claim will be there. They need a FQB, and Watson and Mahomes could be that guy, and could be had, as opposed to the future where nothing at all is guaranteed.
Hail the PFF Gods they know all! Learning a new position and judging a player in their first year is always a knee jerk reaction. But that's been happening a lot of as late around here.
I'm well aware of who the top OT prospects are, and none are worthy of the #6 pick. OG is not a need, and even if it was, there's no OG in this draft valued that high, and imo it's too high to take an OG. It's also too high to take a C, and there are none rated anywhere near that high. Trading down takes a trading partner. It isn't as easy as you make it sound. Yes, it would be good to finds some competition for Shell at RT in FA, and a starter at LT.
OL taken that high are no safer than any other position. There have been high profile OL who have been complete busts as well. Robinson can't pass block. There's no way he should even be remotely considered at #6. If Ramczyk didn't have to have hip surgery and had a good Combine, he may have moved up to the top 15 or 20, but not top 10. If the Jets go offense with their first pick, barring a trade down, it will not be an OL, but either Howard, Fournette or Williams. You can take that to the bank. I don't think they will take a QB and I don't think Cook is as good as Fournette.
I can't see taking Williams - although the Jets might - a WR isn't as useful to them as an elite 2-way TE would be, let alone an elite RB. NOt sure why you don't like Cook. For this team he might be a better fit, although I do like Fournette too. I'm still praying that Watson drops to #6 and Macc has the guts to take him, or failing that they grab Mahomes.
I'd be somewhat surprised if they take Williams, but not totally. He isn't the fastest WR in the world, but he succeeds because he knows how to use his body to shield the defenders from the ball, he has great leaping ability and high points the ball, and has great hands. If the Jets part ways with B. Marshall and don't see Enunwa as a #1, then Williams could be a logical choice. I agree that an elite TE would help them more than Williams, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have to take Howard. There's the kid from Miami (Njoku) who could zoom up the rankings following the Combine, although he's no sure thing and doesn't have that much experience. I like Cook, I just think Fournette is better. Cook is fast and he is an excellent receiver. He also can break some tackles. Fournette is bigger and stronger and can not only outrun or evade tacklers like Cook can, but he can flat run over them. Both appear to have great vision and cutting ability. I think you probably should forget about the Jets taking a QB at #6, because you'll wind up being very disappointed/frustrated/angry. I don't think Mac will take Watson or any QB that high. In fact, I don't think he will take a QB at all. I think he trusts in Hack and Petty. I think he will bring in a cheaper vet as insurance and to help mentor our two young QBs.
Your points are reasonable and well-made. I will be disappointed, but not angry, because I agree that Macc probably won't pick Watson at #6, and definitely not Mahomes at #6, but Mahomes will be taken in the 1st Round IMO, so Macc won't have a chance to get him in a later round. And if he doesn't take either of them, I don't see any other QB worth taking, more than using that pick for something more useful than another QB project.
