Yeah yeah yeah Im just a blue collar dude so I'm not qualified I get it. And March for life they only care about embryos and only in the USA so it's all good. Once the child is born, fuck em. And black lives matter is a bunch of bullshit because people are still killing each other in Chicago ya know?? You'd think they'd have the goddamn decency to solve inner city plight that has plagued this country for centuries before they march. Fuckin hypocrites
It takes a special kind of stupid to think you've made a point with those arguments. I want to play! If you are against drunk driving but aren't wiling to pick up every drunk you find on Friday nights, you're a hypocrite! Am I doing this level of stupidity correctly?
I mean I guess so that kind of stretch is where this whole thing started. Besides you were the one calling the shots I believe and telling people which opinions were valid and which weren't. so you tell me. you are the protest expert
So wouldn't Obama's six month restrictions on Iraq immigration here motivate the same thing? Also, we're not talking about whether the Muslim women think it's demeaning. It's about all the protesters and women who would think it's demeaning. The massive protests and media placing so much emphasis on this executive order is what is creating this shit storm. If everyone would calm down about it and take it as America figuring out how the fuck to deal with the immigration from such nations then maybe it wouldn't fuel them. We need to figure out how to take care of our own. There is massive homelessness and massive amounts of starving people in this country. So we want to open the borders and create more governmental programs to deal with people of other nations experiencing the same problems? We can't always take on other countries problems because we have a formidable nation. There are no organized central governments in the nations that are banned. Notice how the nations left off the list have some sort of organized government. They're run by friggain militias. Let's put 10,000 refugees in your city or town and see how you like. Sorry. But it's time to take care of our own homeless people and starving people and tons of vets before everyone's tax dollars goes towards everyone else's starving people. It's harsh, but it's a reality of life. We can't constantly save everyone.
So you'd think we'd want to fix problems like Chicago first before dumping more poor and impoverished people from another nation into that very city, right?
Obama's restrictions didn't create a shitstorm of chaos at international airports, so no, they wouldn't motivate the same thing. Why would the protesters and women think it's demeaning if Muslim women don't think it's demeaning? Instead of blaming the media, maybe Trump should take a look in the mirror and stop being so dysfunctional. If he keeps this up, his presidency will go the same way as Rex Ryan's stay in Buffalo. Eventually even his supporters will get sick of the excuses and turn on him the same way Bills fans turned on Rex. I wasn't aware Republicans cared about massive homelessness, starving people, and veterans. When did that happen?
So we're to believe that all of your Muslim female friends provided their personal take on hijabs without any prompting or inquiry on your part? Or did you draw out this information from each and all of your Muslim women friends at some point in time while engaged with them? Either you're trying to pass off a very dubious snapshot as ordained knowledge or you're guilty of exhibiting poor judgement and even poorer taste in subjecting these women to an intrusive and insenitive cultural audit.
I don't know why I'm responding to this but I'll give you an example. My friend is Muslim, and she doesn't wear a hijab. Her older sister wears a hijab. We were talking about religion in general, and my friend volunteered that her sister likes wearing a hijab as an expression of her faith. Therefore it isn't demeaning. See? Not dubious and not in poor taste.
Just because women who have been wearing hijabs all of their life, and therefore think of it as normal, don't think it's demeaning doesn't negate that it is a mandate created by men to subjegate and control woman. Women's rights is about men not dictating to women what to do with their bodies. Or are we to think men demanding that women cover their heads isn't controlling? The fucking inability to think that liberals continue to exhibit is astounding.
Except what is the origin of it as part of the faith? You can't escape that one. Just because she is willing to be complicit in the subjugation because she enjoys her religion doesn't negate the subjugation.
Regardless of what you or I think, the mass majority of protesters think it's degrading. Essentially making them hypocrites. You're talking in circles here.
Nice to see that you've joined the third grade badass boy's club of name callers; it really assists your argument. His suggestion of what they should be protesting, whether in lieu of or in addition to, their dissatisfaction with Trump and his policies is a hollow argument. In these United States people get to choose their own crusades. You'd think it was preposterous if I told you what to protest, and you'd finally be right. You're entitled to your opinion of these worldwide protests. You're also entitled to keep your head planted in the sand.
Looks like you've completely missed the point. While Muslims being denied admission was the trigger point there is certainly a larger motive here. The demonstrations are about the unconstitutional and un-American policies instituted without adequate research and preparation that were punitive in nature and unfair to thousands of people otherwise permitted legal access to the US many of whom have been productive members of American society for years. I don't believe Giuliani simply made up the history of these actions he related in interviews regarding the reason the immigration changes were implemented. And just as you did above, Rudy confirmed the real target was simply people who were Muslims from isolated countries.
Does it really matter? Do you question that at least some Muslim women cover their heads of their own free will to demonstrate their faith? Do you realize that until very recently no woman ever went into a Catholic church without a head covering? Is it any different than a Jewish man covering his head in a synagogue? Do you believe all these Catholics and Jews do this out of fear or subjugation that needs to be protested?
I agree, but we aren't talking about you and I, we are talking about the protesters. I thought that was understood. And your argument isn't the feminists argument. If you aren't protesting there is no issue with such a position. But we are talking about the protesters.
Except you are still ignoring why they are choosing the act of covering their heads as an expression of their religion rather than simply wearing a bikini that says Islam Rocks! They aren't all coincidentally and arbitrarily choosing to cover their heads separate from the male created dictation that states it's the approved practice to be modest. Being volubtarily complicit in that male directive doesn't negate the male directive, which conflicts with the protesters feminists positions and thus hypocritical.
Several Presidents have done it. There was no outcry of it being unconstitutional until now. It's not a lifetime ban of Muslims. It's a temporarily halt on immigration from certain countries with barely if any central government and ones that seem to be run by militias. It's funny how people with a liberal agenda spin it into MUSLIM BAN! Trump hates every non-white in the world! Some of the largest Muslim countries are still allowed to send immigrants here freely. If it was a Muslim ban, wouldn't Saudi Arabia and Pakistan be on the list? Why aren't they? Hmm. Maybe because they have a government that isn't comprised of 50 soldiers saying Fuck the USA!!!! If they can't police their own country, why should they have the right to send whoever the fuck they want to ours? Also. Guess what? White Christians in Iraq aren't allowed to come here either! Whoa! The entire concept is to stop the process for a short while to make sure we are policing immigration the correct way. What is so hard to understand?
Trump travels the country for months and months proposing a BAN on muslims. Says it everywhere he went, he wanted to ban muslims coming into this country. Then he gets in office, writes up this POS executive order and its a liberal spin to suggest he's trying to ban muslims. good grief. You can abandon common sense to support this idiot. I won't though
