Huh? It's directly written into the Quran. It's a huge part of Muslim faith. They might not wear the full burqa but they do wear garb that covers the majority of their body and face. I believe it's called a niqaab. Also, below is writings directly from modern day Islamic faith as outlined before the quotes.
Didn't HomeoftheJets say something like "that isn't true of most Muslims" when the subject of woman abuse in Islam was brought up? I'd certainly like to see one of his many links to back that claim up.
Stop blaming me for your lack of reading comprehension. That's a personal failing of yours. What I said was relevant and you decided to make this personal and lash out because you have trouble comprehending logic.
I said most Muslim women aren't forced to cover their heads, not that the Quran doesn't specify head-coverings. Also, most of the Muslim women I know who cover their heads wear hijabs, which just cover their hair. Finally, the Quran contains illiberal writings, but so does the Bible. E.g. “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12). The key is not to take the Quran (or any religious text) literally.
I think you have me confused with Ron. I said most Muslim women aren't forced to cover their heads. That's because most Muslim women live in South Asia or Egypt where there aren't laws forcing you to wear a headscarf. Also, I'm totally opposed to any such law, and if my country were to propose it, I'd be the first one to speak out against it.
Here's what you said: "it's so funny not long after the liberal airheads held their protests in support of "women's rights" (most notably the "right" to fail to use birth control/contraceptives, have unprotected sex, and then abort the fetus), the protests are now about protecting the rights of Muslims. They don't even realize the irony of what they're doing. Why don't they hold protests about what the Muslims do to their women?" Your last sentence indicates people should protest what you choose for them to protest without regard for what they choose. It would be just as relevant if you suggested they protest the killing of whales. People have the right to choose their issues. And if you believe there have been no demonstrations in the US regarding Muslim treatment of women you are sadly mistaken, or just plain ignorant. In this case the groups across the country were protesting against the probably unconstitutional actions of the US government not fragmented actions of individuals halfway around the world. You also opened that post with an inane thought that there is somehow something funny in either the purpose of these demonstrations or the plight of women in Muslim areas. I fail to understand your sense of humor.
You fail to understand many things. One of them is the topic of this thread. If anyone were to go over your posts in this thread, they'd realize you've made zero intelligent contributions and have been obfuscating the issue at every turn. Your first post in this thread: That post informing us you made a duplicate post was far more insightful than your ensuing posts. Your second post in this thread: You want a non sequitur? There you go. You decided to make it personal and at the same time, derail the thread with nonsense. I didn't say I was concerned, nor did I say I did anything about what we were discussing before you came in here to post pure drivel. You've made it clear that not only did you fail to grasp my point, you can't even comprehend the general topic at hand.
Regardless, is that not still degrading to women? Whether they're covering their face completely or covering the majority of their body and hair, I don't get how liberals can defend such a religion. You're right. They shouldn't be taken literal, but I think Islamic people tend to subscribe more closely to their religious teachings than most other religions. I'm not a religious guy. I believe in God and that's about it. The stories should be taken for what they are, in trying to inspire good morals yet people of all religions take them a lot more literal than they should. I was raised Catholic, and it hasn't crossed my mind to continue practicing since I appeased my parents with a confirmation at 14. I always said that the day religions stop being the massive cause of killing and wars, will be the day I think about honoring them.
No, I understand the topic of the discussion quite well but judging by your first two words here, you're completely lost. When hundreds of thousands of protestors turn out across the country and tens of thousands even outside our country to show their unhappiness with a brand new administration there just might be something perceived as wrong with that new administration that causes such an unprecedented show of displeasure. At least it represents a significant message to that administration. Your words? "Stupid demonstrations." I entered the discussion when you made an inane, red herring of a comment regarding an alternate topic for these people to protest. That certainly looks like an attempt to "derail the thread with nonsense" on your part rather than making a valid contribution. We have since seen some more large, spontaneous demonstrations in protest of ill conceived and incompetently administered actions by an administration not in office even two weeks yet - do you have more irrelevancies to add? And how do you have the balls to claim I "decided to make it personal" when you questioned my reading comprehension and ascribed it as a personal failing? Time to grow up, stop the name calling and deal with facts. Comments made here in a public forum are fair game for criticism, if someone is too thin skinned to handle that they should refrain from posting.
No he isn't saying they can't choose to protest what they want, he's calling out the hypocrisy of protesting for two separate issues that conflict with one another. They can choose to protest for whatever they want, but they are fucking idiots when they protest for issues that conflict. There was nothing confusing about that. You created a Strawman, in your typical fashion, to oppose him. Or perhaps you didn't and you truly do have a comprehension disability.
Next time you feel the urge to derail a thread, just post "duplicate" and leave. Everyone would appreciate it. If you want to start random arguments about what you think "non sequitur" means and to make personal comments about other posters, we can create another thread for you in a subforum. A sandbox, if you will. As for making it personal, you were the one who did that, and I even pointed out the post where you did so (quoted in my previous post). You chose to make it about me, rather than the thread, because, as I said, you failed to grasp the general topic.
Muslim women I'm friends with say the hijab isn't demeaning, so I take their word for it. When they're forced to wear it or wear a more restrictive covering, that's definitely demeaning. But the Muslims coming here aren't the hard-line wingnuts, they're the ones trying to get away from that shit. I'd love to put an end to ISIS and radical Islam, but Trump's refugee ban won't help; it will only motivate them.
Just be honest enough to address why you think these protestors should be arguing against Muslim treatment of women instead of their topic at hand. While you're at it explain how you can dismiss an unprecedented turnout of half a million or more people to voice their displeasure as "stupid demonstrations. Forget all the personal issues for now and leave your sandbox comments in elementary school where they belong.
Except he never mentioned that they should be protesting against Muslim treatment of women instead, he said they should be protesting against Muslim treatment of women as well if they believe in women's rights as they previously protested for, because you can't protest for women's rights and be silent about Muslim treatment of women. Unless, of course, you are an contrary sack of shit not interested in truthful issues and simply want to purport yourself as a progressive. Which brings us to your second point. There is nothing impressive about millions of like minded hysterics getting together to take selfies and tell each other how awesome they are for being there. You are attempting to make that a meaningful commentary against Trump when it speaks more about the protesters themselves, especially when put in context with their hypocritical silence on the treatment of Muslim women. Can't say anything negative about Muslims lest you be stripped of your moron card.
why the fuck would they protest something happening 1000s of miles away that they cant do anything about? these bitches want to protest their own countries' actions. That makes some sense to me
next time there is a March for Life protest - I think I will call them hypocrites because they aren't marching about babies killed from bad formula in fucking Africa. that's the logic on display here
The sad thing is you think you made a point. They are protesting for Muslims not in the country who are not being allowed in. clearly they aren't restricted their concerns to US borders. How the hell could you be so unaware of such a basic fact of the protest and think you are qualified to comment on it?
