The first inkling of good Hack news

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  1. bigbucks24

    bigbucks24 Active Member

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    Who is going to trade for Brandon? Most people think he will be cut. Why would someone give up a pick for him and be stuck with that contract? What kind of pick do you think the Jets could get for him?
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    Maybe no team will, but they need to check that out. IMO a team that was a playoff team or one who was very close to being a playoff team and has a need at WR to help them get over the top might. Rookie WRs often don't contribute that much in their first season or two. Marshall could conceivably help make a team on the outside looking in into a playoff team, or help a team that was in the playoffs get closer to the SB. For a one-year rental, I wouldn't expect to get more than a 5th round pick, maybe only a 6th or 7th round pick, but that would be better than just releasing/cutting him.
     
  3. Br4d

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    Brandon Marshall hurt his public image by getting involved in the locker room politics last year. The ongoing feud with Sheldon Richardson was a really bad look on a collapsing team with a shaky locker room.

    I'd be surprised if there was any real market for his services next year. If the Jets cut him I think he has a shot at getting a training camp invite if he wants it but I'm not sure he's going to get the call from the teams he wants to call.

    If you were the Giants would you put Brandon Marshall next to Odell Beckham Jr at this point? In terms of talent it sounds great but you need steadying influences on Beckham, not people who might act unpredictably under stress during the season.
     
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  4. BrowningNagle

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    I think you would find some suitors if you shopped Marshall. When Miami was shopping him people said "who would trade for that idiot??" and they found the Bears. Same thing when the Bears were shopping him and our Jets bit.

    As big of an idiot he is, 6'4 240lb receivers like him don't grow on trees. Some desperate WR-needy team won't be able to pass that up and his contract is very favorable for a trade with only 1 year left at $7.5 mill.

    I would give the Washington Redskins a call if I was Mac. They have the talent to win that division and all their receivers are small. Other teams that could use a big target like Marshall: Minny, and Tennessee.

    Something has got to budge with Marshall and Richardson and I'd move Marshall for a 5th rounder if its an option before I'd move Richardson for something like a 4th rounder for example
     
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  5. nicg4360

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    I think Baltimore could really use Brandon Marshalls services
     
  6. Acad23

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    Me thinks BM should just hang it up and move on to broadcasting.

    Maybe one day he'll be as good as Shannon Sharpe.
     
  7. JetLifeLo

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    I watched him at Penn state, I watched and read up on his comical training camp performances, I watched him in pre-season... and that game vs Philly was just more of his Penn State bullshit antics and he looked AWFUL I mean that was the worst game I've ever seen from a QB on any level of football. So I have no faith in this kid I'm sorry.. I'd love to have to eat these words one day but I'm just keeping it real.
     
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  8. Br4d

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    I'd move em both and be glad if I got back a 3rd and a 5th at this point.

    Once Mo got signed long-term Richardson was a goner. There's no way the Jets can pay him and Mo and Leo Williams unless we still don't have a QB in 3 years and if that's the case just shoot me and go ahead and spend the money however you want for a 10-6 best case that goes 4-12 like clockwork every 4 years.
     
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  9. Jeti

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    you don't watch enough football.
     
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  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The NFL didn't rate his bowl wins high enough obviously. The double-comeback against Alabama in 2000 (down 14-0 and 28-14 and won the game 35-34 in OT with 369 yards passing and 4 TD passes) was one of the great games ever by a Michigan QB.
     
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  11. BrowningNagle

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    Brady was a stick figure at the combine. A rail-thin, un-athletic kid with an average arm who was a part time starter. Of course people ignored that one good game in the bowl game. Even NE got lucky as hell, no one saw that coming.
     
  12. NoodleArm

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    Has there been any more good news on Hackenberg?
     
  13. nicg4360

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    I wonder if this OC hire is good news for Hackenberg. If he has any say in what QB will be running his offense unless hack has a good off season I think we will be looking at free Agency.
     
  14. Br4d

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    Yeah, I get why he didn't get more looks. I remember thinking that Brady was just a placeholder between Griese and Henson and not expecting all that much out of him when he finally kind of took the job in 1998. Lloyd Carr was very loyal to his upperclassmen and at the time it really felt like he was giving the Junior who had been a loyal soldier the position as the first default to see if he could hold on to it.

    The 1999 Citrus Bowl against Arkansas was another improbable come from behind victory but Brady was as responsible for being down as for the comeback with 2 int's contributing to Arkansas lead.

    I just think that if you look at what Brady did at Michigan after finally getting the job it's not that surprising that he managed to put it together in the NFL when he ran into an offensive system designed to mask his flaws and accentuate his strengths.

    I thought he was slow-footed and a bit hesitant in the pocket at Michigan but the Wolverines were running the usual run on 1st down and then pass on 2nd down if you need too plan and that can set up a QB to look worse than he is. I think in Brady's case it did.
     
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    I read this on Walter Football:
    http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017.php

    New York Jets: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

    I've been slotting Mitch Trubisky here for a while now, citing some news story that the Jets had interest in him. Charlie Campbell squashed those reports in his Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. The scuttlebutt is that Christian Hackenberg has developed well behind the scenes, so perhaps the Jets won't give up on him without seeing him play after all.

    If this is true, Leonard Fournette suddenly becomes the favorite for this pick. The Jets don't have a viable starting running for the future, and Fournette is a stud. Fournette is considered the top running back prospect since Adrian Peterson, as he's received higher grades than Todd Gurley and Ezekiel Elliott. He was slowed by an injury in 2016, but his tape in 2015 was some of the best a running back prospect has ever displayed.


    And then I read this:

    New York Giants: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson

    Let me explain. The Giants have a great defense and some play-makers on offense, and it's become quite apparent that Eli Manning is one of the weakest parts of the team. General manager Jerry Reese even told the media that he and the rest of the front office have "started to think about who is the next quarterback" following Manning. They have no logical successor on the roster, so I imagine they plan on spending an early pick on a quarterback. Maybe a second-rounder, or something.

    However, they could like Deshaun Watson, and if they do, they may believe that they have to pull the trigger at No. 23. Manning is 36 - a year older than Brett Favre was when the Packers spent the No. 24 choice on Aaron Rodgers. If the Giants see Watson as a favorable draft prospect, they'll talk themselves into picking Watson at this juncture.

    I should note that no team we've spoken to has him as a first-round prospect. One high-ranking personnel man in the NFC told me he has Watson as a third-round prospect. It's so much like the Teddy Bridgewater draft, when the media had Bridgewater in the first round, and yet NFL franchises considered him to be a second-day prospect, even before his woeful pro day. However, this was prior to the national championship, so I have to believe some team will trade up into the back end of the opening frame to take Watson, much like the Vikings did with Bridgewater. In this case, New York is simply taking Watson with its own pick, and I think it's a very logical selection.


    I would go apoplectic if the Jets passed on Watson and the Giants took him and he became their FQB!
     
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  16. NoodleArm

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    Thanks for the news! I guess it's good (the first part), and I totally agree about the last part.
     
  17. Ralebird

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    Especially if the Jets then end up with a worn out Eli Manning.
     
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    I'll bet the first part of that article got your heart pounding, then the last part probably about stopped it! LOL
     
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  19. NCJetsfan

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    Wouldn't that just be typical of Woody?
     
  20. ColoradoContrails

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    So typical of the Jets as the "ugly stepchild". Right along with sharing a stadium with the Giants.:mad:
     
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