I don't think Brandon Marshall is a locker room headache at all. I am cutting him now based on my 2 year playoff rebuild plan. When I think of keeping Marshall, - its entirely for the 2017 season only. And then he becomes a UFA. So there's just no way he's on the team anyway.
Thumbs up. I hope we can get King in the 2nd round. You're right that most of the corners will be gone and King might bring a bit of an edge to a defense that really needs it
I'm at the point where I'd be happy with anyone who could contribute with our 2nd round draft pick (compared to years' past).
I appreciate all the effort and research that you did, but I really can't see us taking only one offensive player in our first five picks. It'd be awesome to completely rebuild the defense with this youth, but we've tried this plan for far too long. I want to see a huge youth movement on the offensive side of the ball especially because of how the rules setup to favor the offense. Not to mention we still have a ton of young unproven defensive players that could turn out to be something. Reiff has also played right tackle this past year. Not sure if he is worth the free agent dollars to man the left side, although he is the only youthful option at that spot.
damn watching the senior bowl highlights and King is getting killed out there =/ doesn't look very good as a press corner. He might be a safety after all ... I do like him maybe in the slot.
Appreciate the feedback & I hear you loud & clear. Believe me, - I wanted to draft more O, -- but IMO our pressing immediate emergency needs exist on the D side. The previous horrible regime & their drafting should not have any bearing on what we do in 2017 or 2018. I just honestly did not see any O players at our projected draft spots that I would have chosen over what I mocked. And if you go position by position on the O, at least we seem to have more solutions than not. OT === Shell, Ijalana, Qvale and my 3rd rounder Garcia. This cries out for more help, but I just didnt see anyone at the right time to draft in Rd 1 or 2. That could very well change come draft day if someone drops or we trade down. OG ==== we just re-signed Brian Winters & we have James Carpenter (the only JET to get a single All-Pro vote by the way). So I really dont see an urgent need to draft anyone at this time while they are starting. And we dont have the luxury either. Dakota Dozier backup & then I decided the need to get an additional backup later in the draft. C ===== Mangold is leaving but Wesley Johnson filled in & I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt in the short-term. Drafted later in the 6th round. QB === I am not using a draft pick this year on a QB to make the situation even more foggy. RB === we just need to use Bilal Powell. Why we didnt is just another story. Also have Forte & I used a 5th rounder on RB Brian Hill. We probably have PSquad options. WR === even releasing B. Marshall, we have Decker, Enunwa and Robby Anderson. I’d like to get Devin Smith out there to at least TRY to find out what the hell he’s got if anything. Peak & Marshall are the others. TE ==== granted ASJ only, --- but I just don’t know what O the new coordinator is going to implement, so I had no idea what to do w/this. I used a 2 year forecast plan. IMO, - there are "urgent needs / holes" in the upcoming 2 seasons at CB, S & ILB.
With all due respect, your bias towards defense is glaring. No one who even casually watched the Jets this year could make the claim that the defense is in more of a crisis than the "O". Yes, they gave up lots of big plays, and their pass coverage was very poor, but add an elite pass rusher and the unit would be instantly upgraded to above average. Meanwhile, the offense is trainwreck, having not been paid attention to for years by defense-minded coaches. If they can get Watson, they HAVE to grab him. Failing that, they need to grab Fournette or Cook to alleviate pressure on the QB, whoever he is. Upgrafing the OL is also a high priority. It's clear from your posts that we are diametrically opposed, and I don't think for a second I can convince you to see it any differently, but I didn't want your assertion that I bolded to go unopposed.
The only position you should draft in the top 6 on offense are QB, OL, and WR. The Jets have Powell and could get a good RB later in the draft (see Jordan Howard).
If they don't get Watson - who is the only QB that's a top 10 pick IMO - they need a game-breaking RB, not just another middle-of-the-pack journeyman like Powell. If you don't have a game-breaking QB, you need someone to be that guy, and RB is the next best thing. You're not going to find a guy like that usually in past the 1st round. Fournette and Cook are both this caliber and the Jets should be able to get one of them.
I like everything but Glennon ruins it for me He's not a franchise QB or anything even close Why are we dumping 13-15 mill a year on someone who will be a lower end starting QB? Just go with our young guys and even bring back someone like Geno for a few million as insurance if we're not trying to substantially improve the QB position Glennon is not the answer
I understand your dislike of Glennon. He may not be as expensive as you think. The thing about Glennon is that he has starting experience, but isn't so good that he'd have to be named starter, and Petty or Hack could be able to beat him out. If he is that expensive, then forget him and Hoyer's available for less, then go with Hoyer. I just think we need a QB with some starting experience. I'd be shocked if they went with just Petty and Hack.
If they don't draft Watson, then the best move is to sign Geno. He knows the system, and could step in, but wouldn't be a block to Petty/Hack.
I'd be shocked if Geno is willing to come back. He knows that most of the fans hate him, he knows that Bowles doesn't really like or trust him, and he'd have little chance to learn or improve with a dubious OC and QB coach. Conversely, if he signs on with another team with better coaching, he can hope that he'll learn and improve and get a shot at starting.
If he can get a better deal, then of course, he'll sign elsewhere, but I don't think he will. He's done a lot of damage to his reputation. The Jets might be the only team that will give him a chance.
If he would come back, and I'd definitely prefer him as he should be cheaper, and he already knows the players. In other news, your passion and persistence is winning me over. I'm more open to taking Fournette at #6 than I have been for a while.
Well, like Butch Cassidy said: "We'll outlast the bastards!" I just think that if we they don't take Watson - and I don't believe Macc will - they're going to need to take pressure off the QB whoever he is, and an ELITE RB is the best way (short of completing upgrading the OL which ain't going to happen on one draft/offseason). I know there are probably going to be some good, or even very good, RBs in the later rounds, but they need someone who can break a game open by himself and not have to rely on a mediocre (at best QB and OL). None of those later RBs will likely be that good. And the push to draft yet MORE "D" in the early rounds smacks of the "prevent defense" mentality that has lost so many games for teams. It's like, "We can're really know for sure about a QB or RB, and we can't afford to miss, so we'll play it safe and draft the best guy on defense available because those guys usually work out (of course they conveniently forget the Gholstons and MIlliners, et. al. that have flopped). They have drafted "D" virtually exclusively for over a decade! They need to find difference-makers on the offense, and aside from Watson, Fournette (or maybe Cook because of his pass catching skills) would be a difference-maker.
Sapp, appreciate the hard work. I think this is a realistic approach to a rebuild. Get the OL and secondary set up. Unfortunately will have to struggle in '17 without a QB. Then in '18 take a QB will your #1 pick in the top 5.
Liking what I'm hearing about my mock 3rd rounder who will probably end up being my mock 2nd rounder as soon as I ditch Desmond King who now can't seem to play CB. Rotoworld; Panthers OL coach Ray Brown told Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline that Troy T Antonio Garcia's hands have stood out during the Senior Bowl practice week. "Brown said Garcia’s hand use -- specifically the way he properly places his hands into opponents and extends to keep defenders away -- is a trait not often found in college linemen, who usually prefer to lean on opponents," Pauline wrote, adding that this aspect of the 6-foot-7, 302-pounder's game "has separated Garcia from many of the blockers in attendance." As far as prospects go, you would be hard-pressed to find one who is hotter than Garcia, who has steadily worked his way into the conversation as an early Day 2 selection during the early portion of the draft process. Source: Draft Analyst Jan 27 - 4:59 PM
Well I would be ecstatic if the Jets could get Watson and then Garcia in the 2nd round; I would be very happy with Fournette/Cook at #6 and Garcia in the 2nd. This would make a huge difference for whoever the QB winds up being.
