Whoever is the Jets QB he will looking at dirt unless we build an OL..so let Hack train another 3 seasons lmao We can draft up the kazoo but hello you have no OC LOL we have no HC either Present management is guaranteed to mismanage You guys foam at the mouth what a great pick at LB or CB we will get at 6 for our overpriced decrepit defense...other than L Williams our first round selections , Lee and D Smith are rated poorly or not playing Go trade down , if you are adept and get a bunch of players its a big crapshoot so go get quantity over BPA Of course this wont happen........
Yep. Unless Watson is there at #6, take Fournette or Cook because they'll help take the load of Petty/Hack/Whoever.
Good news everyone. The quarterback of the future is on the roster and he's named Hackenberg. Sure, you can't actually see him play because of how awful it would be to watch. But uh, you hang tight for a couple more years boys and girls. We're really onto something here.
Shame on you. If we sign the mensch that discovered him in high school to be the offensive coordinator, sunny days are coming. This dude Hack will be able to do press conferences telling the world that Chan Gailey was an evil man that ruined his pitching stance by never giving him reps, then he'll immediately walk into the field and start throwing TDs. Like fuck yeah. His dude Godsey that was standing there once during a high school division game will give him the confidence to be GREAT. Fucking people around here not knowing football, it astounds me. They need to start testing IQs up in this fuck.
How DARE you, Sir. We all know that it was the line's fault which is why the Jets gave Winters top 10 guard money so they could upgrade at guard and now the line is like the Justice league of all lines! Obsviously, since the line is currently sitting at 30% of the cap that makes them awesome and now the anointed Hackenberg will save all of our souls with his impressive quarterbacking, but given his artistry at the position we won't be able to see it because it is made of pure divinity.
well now that u mention that fiasco.......u better sit down for this.....it appears the jets had brady rated higher than sapp on their board - a board that was mostly put together by kotite, the GM. now most teams at that time had it the other way around and i think most people on this site would have had sapp over brady, right?? we all know what happened that day with sapp and his weed........well kotite was practically begged to take sapp but he refused for the squeaky clean penn state TE saying, and this is a very close quote, "i want football players and not addicts" the jets were also offered a very attractive trade package from another team which they also refused, on the clock. and the rest is history, of course.
The Jets used a 2nd round pick on Hackenberg. They should double down on that and play him next year. One of two things will happen. He'll either prove to be a competent NFL QB in which case we're back to 5 to 8 wins next year and maybe have our future QB on the roster or he'll blow chunks in which case he'll Clausen us to the #1 pick in 2018. This isn't hard to figure out unless you're stuck up de-nial without a paddle. The Jets aren't very good right now and they're not going to become very good by importing more expensive veteran free agents that turn into disasters a year or two down the road. The talent blowout is already happening all over the roster with D'Brick going after 2015, Revis, Mangold, Marshall and Decker all in trouble in 2016, and Harris turning 33 a few days ago and ancient. D'Brick, Revis, Mangold and Harris were the Jets best players in the 2008 to 2011 window (with apologies to Favre who was just passing through). They're done now and there's nobody on the roster to replace them at anything like the same level of play. Marshall and Decker were two of the better prominent free agents the Jets brought in over the last few years to support the aging talent base at one more run at the playoffs. Matt Forte is another guy the Jets hired to try to get over the top. So was Marcus Gilchrist. Those guys are all in decline also because wishful thinking doesn't stop the sands of time from eroding players talents and making them more vulnerable to career-limiting and ending injuries. This roster has been gutted like a fish over the last two seasons and it was Father Time with the Paring Knife in the Trainer's Room who committed the crime. It's time to accept facts and rebuild the team. Starting Hackenberg next year is step one on that process. He's either good enough to give the Jets some hope at QB for the first time in 5 years or he's the Willy Wonka Golden Ticket to the #1 draft pick in 2018 when a real franchise QB should be available.
So priority #1 should be getting a franchise QB to lead the team for the next decade or so. You can hire a good coach on the open market, with a few potential hires available every year between the coordinators of the best teams and the best college coaches. You can't get a young franchise QB on the open market. Those guys come from the NFL draft which is a lottery at best and the best place to be picking in that lottery is the most valuable ticket, the #1 pick.
If he goes 2-14 for us next year he'll be the AFCMVP of 2017 from the Jets standpoint because he'll give us our first legitimate shot at a franchise QB since Peyton Manning said no in 1997. There's no point in developing him on a roster that has no QB to play in front of him. Adding a vet free agent, like Ryan Fitzpatrick just kicks the can a few feet down the road because that guy will not be able to hold the job long enough to develop Hackenberg. Even if the vet could hold the job for a Favre-ian period of time the NFL talent retention model doesn't work the way it did when the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers in 2005 and warehoused him for 3 years. The Jets have to make a decision on Hackenberg by the 2018 season at the latest. They only have him under contract at a cheap rate through 2019 and having him develop into a QB in 2019, like Kirk Cousins did for the Redskins in the last year of his deal, just turns him from the cheapest QB available to the most expensive one.
I will be happy with Hack and a vet to compete with him and Petty. Take the BPA that also has a need on the team. We aren't patient at all as a fan-base, I think back on what Bowles and Mac have done. It ain't pretty but I see positives that make me think they can make this work, they just need more time. Looks like they want Revis to play safety or they think he can play safety. I say pass and cut his ass.
All the hard work is done in the trenches. The Jets need to rebuild them on the offensive side and they need to stop pretending that they're just a few key signings away from contention. That's been the modus operandi for 2011, 2012, 2015 and 2016. The rebuild in 2013 and 2014 was cut short because the draft didn't produce enough talent to support it and the organization wasn't strong enough to withstand the fan blow-back. It's time to do the hard work in the trenches and build a roster that can contend from 2019 to 2025, not sell tickets in 2017 - which it's going to be hard to do in any case.
Keeping Revis at anything more than his guarantee of $6M is just feeding into the entitled veterans of the Jets locker room. The Jets need young, hungry players to step up right now and the vets setting the example for them need to be just as hungry as they are. Paying vets large sums to play poorly just creates entitled young players who think if they prove out they're worth the highest contract they can get. That's not a winning attitude and it never will be.
I agree. When the new DB coach answered questions about Revis playing safety positively, I sure hope he was just being nice and not that they have that in the cards. Release the man and move on, its not a hard decision. Revis got compensated handsomely for years from this organization, he's not entitled to anything. I would advise him to retire but if he wants to transition to safety he can try that experiment somewhere else.
It wouldn't be so bad if Revis could hit and/or tackle. He does neither with any consistency these days. Jets being loyal to a player for once? Perhaps. I think 39mil is enough loyalty for a guy who's uniform rarely has to be washed.
Revis held out twice and essentially forced a trade in 2013. He's the last guy you'd be repaying loyalty too if you retained him. Nick Mangold and David Harris are the guys the Jets should be weighting the scales on if they're planning to retain guys based on loyalty.
Agreed and that really goes back to what you said earlier. If they keep Revis under that dollar playing out of position, the Jets will not progress and we will be farther away from contention.
