Ryan, Jones, White, and a mostly in-tact defense, stable management in Dimitrioff, and caring but less-than-meddlesome ownership from Blank. ATL was an easy choice for Quinn. And why he wouldn't have come here is the same reason why the Jets can't get a quality OC. Edit: Fucking almost blocked Stephen Hill from my memory. Why the fuck can't management pick serviceable skill O players before round 4?!?!?!?!
The one thing that all legendary coaches and OC's have in common, that fact eludes the majority of Jets fans.
I still the real problem is that the Jets don't have a Pres. or VP of Football Operations who understands what it takes to build a winning culture. Woody has no clue, and then he screws it up even worse by his organizational "structure" of having the HC not report to the GM. It's schizophrenic, and that's exactly what the Jets have been almost their entire existence. They need someone to come in an impose a winning culture and dictate the types of players - and coaches - that should be hired. Only then will things change.
I think this thread is incorrect. It was not like Woody Johnson hired Bowles over Quinn. I think the feeling was Quinn was going to pick the Falcons over the Jets, so instead of losing both Quinn and Bowles, he decided to hire Bowles. As others have mentioned: Atlanta was the better job.
We need to get very lucky... Hey guys is this official rock bottom???????? We WANT BUSCH ! WE WANT BUSCH! Bwahhhhhh
I'd rather have Bowles and the Falcons roster than Quinn with our current roster Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Falcons and Ryan are on an under-the-radar hot streak similar to the Packers. Quinn got a lot of heat last year when they started 6-1 and finished 8-8 Quinn just outcoached his former team in Grudenesque fashion... and he's got Ryan playing at least as good as anyone in the league Had the Jets pursued Quinn, they might've gotten him 2 years ago. How quickly we forget that Quinn was unavailable until the end of the Super Bowl, and Woody was lauded for making a decisive move in scooping up Bowles, a major candidate himself, rather than wait for Quinn As for everyone interpreting the Jets seeming inability to get an OC as a sign that we are a franchise in turmoil and headed for St Louis (LOL) Can we please just use a little common sense... Bowles is here. He's a lame duck. Why would any OC looking out for his future want to come here? There are no big name coaches available now. There might be next year. Everything makes sense. Maybe that's the plan. Of course if the Jets had a QB like Matt Ryan, maybe everything would be different. Nobody on this board really knows Quinn's abilities as a coach. We only see the results from afar.
Quinn isn't a great coach. His smartest move was to bring in Kyle Shanahan as OC. He also inherited a franchise QB in Matt Ryan and an elite receiver in Julio Jones. Shanahan is more responsible for the Falcons' success than Quinn.
Ohh yeah, we can't be sure that Quinn wanted to coach Jets. Plus, ATL had Ryan and Julio + more talent on their roster.
I disagree Woody KNOWS he has no clue. Bowles is not cut-out to be a HC in New York. I think he's making the right move in keeping Bowles, even as a lame duck, especially if the next move is to hire a Parcells-like guy (Peyton?), none of whom are really available this year. If I were running the Jets, that would be my objective. I'd be looking to set up important building blocks in this year's draft & Free Agency(read: O Linemen) I'd set up the cap so that I'd have about $60+ million in space for 2018...(it's very possible...check out OTC website) I'd do my best to manuever to get a top pick in 2018 draft (franchise QB?) That's how a big name football guy comes here. And I wouldn't get so caught up in having a VP of football operations. If Macc does his job this year, he'll be the guy.
How quickly people forget http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/...new-york-jets-head-coach-candidate-top-choice "Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn interviewed with the San Francisco 49erson Tuesday, December 30, but his interest might lie elsewhere. According to the New York Daily News, Quinn has told friends the Jets are his top choice. Quinn has interviewed with the Jets, 49ers, Bills, Bears and Falcons. The NYDN report also says Quinn wants Kyle Shanahan to be his offensive coordinator." It was widely reported that not only was Quinn the Jets #1 choice but vice versa. Woody blinked and couldn't wait until after the Superbowl. But it would have been worth the risk. It was also pretty well known when both were HC candidates that Quinn was targeting Shanahan as his OC and Bowles was targeting Gailey that alone is pretty much all you need to know. Quinn is a good HC and you can tell the Falcons are well coached in all phases, have good clock management, use timeouts and challenges properly etc.
It's all hypothetical, but if Quinn picked the Jets over the Falcons, it would force me to seriously question his decision-making ability and judgment.
O'Brien & Marino Johnny Lam Jones & Anthony Munoz Blair Thomas & Emmet Smith Brett Favre and Browning Nagle (Needs an asterisk) 1980 Jets & Giants finish 4-12, but Giants get to pick ahead and get LT That's just off the top of my head And Bowles sucks and will be fired But I still think its a pure second guess to bemoan not picking Quinn
That wasn't the only source -- But it really doesn't matter at this point. The Falcons were high on Rex and were close to hiring him and once the Bills hired him it was pretty clear that Bowles and Quinn were going to end up in Atlanta and the Jets. If we had waited and Quinn chose Atlanta, we still would have wound up with Bowles. Chances are that Atlanta would have hired Bowles before that as they were reportedly very high on him and had a second interview scheduled when the Jets announced the hire. Everyone here keeps looking at the QB and says the choice was obvious, but Quinn being a defensive guy the Jets pieces on D were a lot more attractive, so who knows. All I can say is Quinn was my number 1 choice and Bowles was my absolute last choice of all candidates that were talked about even lower than Marrone.
Agreed. I think he would have done better than Bowles, since that's a pretty low bar to clear, but he wouldn't have accomplished anywhere near what he's accomplished in Atlanta. We'll also get a better sense of his coaching ability once Shanahan is hired as a head coach and leaves the Falcons.
