Is this a Hate Crime?

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Is this a hate crime?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ChrebetCrunch

    ChrebetCrunch Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes we can know for sure based on previous events.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Only white people can commit hate crimes and be racist.

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  3. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    Does "social group" include political affiliation?
     
  4. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Just voting for a particular candidate does not place you in a social group. Might as well claim all bread eaters are part of a social group.

    In the social sciences, a social group has been defined as two or more people who interact with one another, share similar characteristics, and collectively have a sense of unity.

    I really don't think Trump voters fit that definition. It's really not that important though so I will just say someone might be able to make that claim but I don't personally think it is valid.
     
  5. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Can we all please calm down and wait for the facts to come out before rushing to judgment?
     
  6. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    yes, clearly by definition it is a hate crime..........

    and if anyone tries to bully u into thinking that its not, just ask them if it was a black, disabled person and 4 white folks that did the exact same thing - what would YOU call it??
     
  7. jilozzo

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    another thing - we can also see the spin and defense commentators trying not to label this as it should be. I really don't know how any level headed professional journalist can put this into any other category.

    but they'll go ahead and blame it on the "system", family deficiency, societal pressures, and "rhetoric" from the most recent elections.

    unbelievable.
     
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  8. PickSix

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    How typical of society to mandate definitions based on personal views. That's like me saying the people that hate Obama hate him because he was calved out of a white woman like I was.

    Hate is hate.
     
  9. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    On a Jets board? Are you kidding?

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  10. xxedge72x

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    The problem with labeling anything a hate crime is that it only focuses on one aspect of the crime, and insignificant at that.

    What if this mentally disabled person were also black and instead had to shout "Fuck Potatoes!"? Is the crime less severe then?

    Four human beings inflicted psychological trauma on one human being. That's all that really matters here. Anything else is propaganda for those who love to hate on others based on meaningless attributes.

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  11. HomeoftheJets

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    Playoffs? You talking playoffs? I just want to win a game.
     
  12. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't make it hard to make that judgement; you simply get people who refuse to call it such based on their own motivations.
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    In all honesty this is one of the most despicable thing I've ever seen in my life. And the media wants to debate whether or not it's Trump's fault, bad parenting or the system that put these juveniles up to something like this.

    That's all fucking bullshit. Let them get their ass beat by whites, blacks or purple people eaters in prison for the next 20 years for all I care. You know what a parent of a mentally disabled person has to deal with in wondering if their child is having an OK day or if they're going to get home from school with no problem.

    And now this person has to endure what looks to be torture training? These human beings should rot.

    When do we stop making excuses for scumbags and simply just call them scumbags.
     
  14. Dierking

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    I hate potatoes.
     
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  15. ChrebetCrunch

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    We are arguing semantics, but yes.
     
  16. ChrebetCrunch

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    We are arguing semantics, but by the definition you posted, two or more people who voted for Trump share similar characteristics, and collectively have a sense of unity. The alleged kidnapped someone because of skin color, and who they voted for. I do not think for a second that they attacked him for being special needs. We could argue about definitions and classifications of hate crimes for days, but these four punks need to do hard time, AND pay restitution.
     
  17. JDeacon

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    Gotta love the excuse it was not an "evil" act because they did not possess the "home training" to recognize that making someone drink toilet water against their own will is wrong, let alone a mentally disabled individual who has no real way of defending themselves.

    Give me a fucking break pussy ass America, this is straight up wrong regardless of what type of "home life" you experienced. I hope the jury and judge throw the max penalty at these disgusting excuses for human beings.

    *Edit* If the tables were turned and it was a black mentally disabled individual and a few white people made him do this and in reverse it was fuck obama etc etc, this would be labeled a hate crime no questions asked.
     
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  18. joe

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    Speaking for Chicago as a hole..
     
  19. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    It absolutely blows my mind that the Mayor of Chicago is proudly trumpeting that city as a "Sanctuary City". A sanctuary from what exactly?!?! People are getting shot by the dozens every day in that godforsaken hell-hole! Is life really that much safer there?
     
  20. All Gas No Shake

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