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This situation is the EXACT reason Woody has to mandate that Petty plays. This team has to use the remaining games to find out if a veteran starter is on the offseason shopping spree or a guy that holds the clip board and can step in if Petty gets injured. It's so ridiculous that this organization is so clueless as to what needs to be done for their long term success. Their record is irrelevant the rest of the way. The only important thing the rest of the way is finding out what Petty is or isn't. If they win out (not likely) with him at the helm, so be it. If he plays horribly and shits the bed, so be it. Knowing what he is capable of in games that count dictates their first round pick next spring. Fitz simply cannot come back under any circumstance. As the starter for 2 seasons there is no way he comes back as anything less than the starter and will be a distraction if he does. His rambling 'lost faith' diatribe ended it for me. He IS a backup, nothing more, nothing less - but he cannot do it here.
This is why I don't understand at all why Fitz is starting this week. Fitz is not coming back, IMO. As he should never step foot in this organization again. We are not making the playoffs. That opportunity is gone. Why wouldn't you start Petty and see what he does? What is the purpose of playing Fitz at this point? Not only is he the biggest reason we are losing, but what future benefit does it have for this organization? If Petty sucks, play Hack. If Hack sucks, put in Fitz and crash and burn. Who cares!! Why would you spend the money or draft pick you will on another QB next year if you possibly have one on the roster right now? Why take that gamble and potentially destroy your future losing picks or more money? This shit makes no fuckin sense what-so-ever.
Agreed. And they should sign a JAG for as little as possible just to provide some competition in camp next year, but ultimately I wanna see either Petty or Hackenberg starting. The priority for 2017 in the offseason should be all about the offensive line.
What reason would Blake Bortles possible be available? Not a chance in hell. Also, why would Cinci give up McCarron, a very solid backup? Garoppolo is still on his rookie contract next year. Patriots have no reason to get rid of him. Taylor isn't going anywhere. Buffalo is too high on him. Jones is garbage. KC won't give up on Smith. Foles sucks. Romo costs way too much. Cousins will cost too much and is overrated. Same as Cutler. Bradford can't stay healthy. Glennon sucks. Palmer is too old.
HIs rookie year was his best year and it wasn't good. He's not good by any measure. If he was, TB never would have drafted Winston. But after two years of playing, they already gave up on him.
In what universe? He's better than any QB that has worn a Jets uniform in the last 6 years. Admittedly a low bar, but beggars can't be choosers
You have no idea what you are talking about. Glennon had 10 more TDs than INTs his rookie year and a near 60% completion rate. Name me a QB that has done that and you'll wish he was on the Jets. You also don't not take a CANT miss QB prospect #1 overall when you have a 3rd rounder playing decent to good on a terrible team. The Bucs have also wanted a 1st round pick for Glennon for the last 2-3 years. But yeah, that guy sucks.
This one. Just because he's better than the worst QB in the NFL doesn't make him good by any measure. I want the farm for any trade we get too but no one is dumb enough to pay that price. No one would trade a first for Glennon. That's the kind of crazy stuff that gets a GM fired.
I'm not saying trade a 1st for him... He's a free agent this off-season. He's proven he's a good QB. You have also gone from saying he sucks to he is not worth a 1st. He doesn't suck. He's a 6'6 QB, 30 TDs in 22 career games, and has a 60% completion rate.
Not counting the top 10 (because they weren't starting QBs), 60% completion would put him 46th of QBs who have played extended time. Bryce Petty is hovering near 62% 60% was good once upon a time but no in 2016. And his TD amount is inflated. When a team is behind all the damn time, they tend to throw a lot. Just because Bortles threw for 35 TD's last year alone doesn't make him a good QB. He was throwing the ball 38 times a game which is a lot. Because they were always behind. Garbage time TD's don't make a QB good by any means.
Sounds like you are doing some damage control. Either he sucks or he doesn't? You use Bryce Petty as an example... Compare QB's at 60% for their first 16-32 games. Don't throw in QBs that have played 10 games. Your "extended time" metric seems extremely ambiguous. Would you not want Blake Bortles on this team? Show me QB's that have 30 TDs in their first 22 career games and I bet you would want them as our QB. All under 60% in their careers: Andrew Luck Jameis Winston Cam Newton Eli Manning Blake Bortles
He's an interesting prospect moving forward. I always liked him in college and he looked poised and in control of the offense in his limited playing time last year. I did however read some rumors that Cincy wanted a first or second for him though so they may try to retain him especially if they fire Marvin Lewis and the new regime likes him. The worry is that his contract demands will be Brock Osweiler-ish and I wouldn't be prepared to throw that to such an unproven commodity. No pun intended. For better or worse, I doubt this regime is going to give up on guys they spent a second and a fourth on. Precisely the reason we need to get them on the field ASAP. And with all that being said, I'd take most of these younger guys on reasonable 2-3 year deals. Stay away from Romo/Bradford/Cutler/Alex Smith types though. I don't want anyone whom has peaked or guys that we know what they are because we likely won't be a very competitive team next year. Doesn't make any sense to sign em and try to force them to grow with a young team.
Suppose that Petty plays poorly. There will be a HUGE number of people on here that will blame everything except Petty. We'll hear about the play calling, lack of Decker, OL sucking, poor head coach, team given up already and everything else. What they'll say is wait until he has a year of TC being named the starter. Then you'll see if he is good or not. I mean, there are some people that still aren't sure that Geno is not the answer and want him back so he can prove it once and for all.
Remember, folks. It took a catastrophic injury by Vinny to see what we had in Pennington. I don't see why it would be any different. Unless Shitz is run over by a 10 ton trailer and goes into coma, I don't see Petty getting regular snaps. Not here at least.
Blake Bortles only does well when his team is down 3 scores. Garbage time has drastically inflated his stats. So far he's made a career of throwing garbage time TD's. I'd like a QB who shows up in the first three quarters and not only against prevent defenses. Luck has been alright. He's not the god people want to make him out to be. He's average, maybe slightly above average at best. Winston has also only been alright. Not sure if it's because Evans is the only good receiver on that team or what but it's too early to tell. Newton is very up and down. He has great games and then he'll have an awful game. His saving grace is his rushing skills. Manning is overrated as hell.
You have still yet to name a comparable QB, stat-wise, to Glennon and indicate if you would take them as our starting QB. You said you wouldn't want Bortles but I'm sure you would take all the other QBs. Beggars can't be choosers. If the Jets had average to alright for a decade we would be in good shape. I'm also not comparing Glennon to Luck, and etc. I used that for the 60% completion rate. Use the metric in my previous post. Glennon does not suck. He absolutely should be brought in.
My point of playing Petty is two-fold. First, it's the only way to see if the guy play. Garbage time in pre-season means nothing. 6 games is a decent enough sample size to get some measure of whether the guy can be the starter, or not, next season. I would expect him to struggle for wins with the group that is 3-7 at this point, so I am not suggesting that wins and losses are the only barometer as to whether he is THE guy to lead this franchise. Realistically, what I would look for is can he complete basic throws under pressure, can he read defenses and what they're throwing at him, can he operate the offense from under center, can he make some difficult throws, can he throw a deep ball that can keep defenses honest, etc. I am under no illusion that after 6 games he'll be a finished product, but if he shows enough then this team's first or second round picks can focus on something else other than a QB. Namely, OL, pass rusher and CB, etc. If he shits the bed, so be it, then Mac knows exactly what type of FA QB to target this offseason. Petty's exhibition should dictate whether a starting calibre QB is acquired that can hold-the-fort until Hack is ready or a backup that Petty could lean on for guidance. And really, what is the alternative at this point? Fitz? No fucking way in hell should this bozo be starting a game the rest of season, but this is the Jets...
