West Virginia in the BCS Title Game?

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    No. Your reading comprehension is terrible. If Louisville hangs on tonight, I'll still be having this discussion with junc. You, as the other TGG member who has Big East allergies, are free to stop on by and leave one liners.
     
  2. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    So much for West Virginia. They have now proven they do not belong in the BCS National Title Game.

    From what I've seen this year, Ohio State and Louisville appear to be the best two teams.
    I give Michigan a shot on 11/18, but Tressel should be the difference.

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    nyjunc-

    What are your comments about the following?

    future Louisville opponents include:
    North Carolina State
    Utah
    Georgia Tech
    Georgia (in 2011)
    Oregon State

    future West Virginia opponents include:
    Auburn (at Auburn in 2008 and at Morgantown in 2009)
    Florida State (home-and-home in 2012 and 2013)
    Michigan State (at Morgantown in 2010 and at East Lansing in 2011)
    they may also be working on a home-and-home with Georgia


    Do you notice how these games are scheduled far in advance?

    I would like you to applaud some of these schedule decisions. I would save such a post from you.
    Then I would like this site to not crash in the next five years.
    Then I would point out your post from 2006 when we are discussing this same topic in 2011. If FSU stinks that year I don't want to hear from you that "WVU played NOBODY. Florida State is not a worthy opponent."
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I was talking about the WVU-MD game which you have been crowing about as some big time non-conf game. I give Ul tons of credit for scheduling Miami b/c you expedt UM to be a top 10 team every year but they suck this year and it's not an impressive win and the only good team they have beaten is WVU.

    KSU hasn't been top flight in a few years and we knew they would suck after Snyder left and regardless of that the facts are UL has now beaten ONE qualiy team, WVu hasn't and Rutgers hasn't.

    You find a way, if you can't scheudle home and homes you take the road game and build up from there.

    2 years ago Auburn was undefeated in a tough conference and didn't make the title game, I can't see UL reaching the title game when there are some excellent 12 loss teams that have played tougher scheds.

    I do agree there needs to be a playoff.

    Against top flight competition- multiple games against such competition nto just 1 home game.

    I never said OSU was overrated, I think they are the bst team in the Counry but they too have played a soft sched b/c the Big 10 is terrible this year.

    NC State may be good- it's hit or miss w/ them. Ga tech may be good, Georgia should be good but there are rumors Richt will leave for Um so who knows and OSU is another hit or miss team. Those all could be very good teams or could be like UM this year.

    Seee big time programs will schedule home and homes w/ WVU. Auburn should be good, I would expect FSU to be back to normal by then, MSU can be good.

    Games are schduled far in advance sometimes but not always. When Bunting took over in '01 he scheduled a game w/ defending Champ Oklahoma in the offseason for the '01 season.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    In post #37 you quoted something where I was specifically talking about the Miami-Louisville game and then you wrote, "they scheduled a middle of the pack ACC team."
     
  5. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Yeah, because WVU just had huge success the past couple seasons.
     
  6. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Please tell me this was a typo.

    Are you so very hung up on schedules that you think teams with multiple losses deserve the spot over a potentially undefeated Louisville team?

    Watch the games.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Yes it was a typo, I usually have typos but w/ my broken finger the # has gone up. I meant 1 loss teams.
     
  8. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Tough loss for WVU Thursday night.

    Fun game to watch though.

    Ohio State will win it all.

    No one will come close.
     
  9. kinghenry89

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    Wow, if White and Slaton stick around that will be a tremendously entertaining game in 2008. Talk about polar oppisites--Auburn is the epitome of smashmouth SEC football, I'd love to see them try and slow down WVU's option attack.
     
  10. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    You gotta be kidding me. Everything you just said has nothing to do with facts but it's basically just you saying "The SEC is so good!" 80 times. All you say about the SEC being better than the Big East is that the Big East has to quality teams and hasn't played anyone and the SEC is all quality and they have to play hard games week in and week out. But here's the question...where's this info coming from? Just as you say the Big East teams suck, where are you getting this notion that the SEC doesn't fall into this boat as well besides your own unjustified bias. Like I said, you're still looking at the SEC from a couple years ago and not the current SEC. None of the SEC teams look that exceptional this year, which is exactly why none of them are undefeated.

    Was WVU exposed against Louisville? No question. But my personal opinion is that Louisville's offense would tear any SEC defense to shreds with the exception of maybe Florida's.

    Before saying the Big East is crap, try looking at the SEC and realizing that maybe the gap is simply narrowed considerably between them and the rest of the conferences. I never said the Big East was better (which are words you put in my mouth) but I did say that the SEC is not that much better, and so far this year, I don't think the conference has come close to proving me wrong. Top to bottom, the SEC is better. Until you see Rutgers and Louisville play a "legitimate" team as you say, I think most of what you said is completely unjustified. Same goes for what I say about it. But I wouldn't be so quick to call the Big East a weak conference unless you see a Big East-SEC battle.
     
  11. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    I was really hoping you meant 12 haha.
     
  12. Tennessee Jet

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    How much better of a team do you think Louisville would have been considered if Michael Bish hadn't gotten hurt? No dogs in this fight (although I am a BE fan), just wondering.
     
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    Slightly. He isn't as great a RB as he seems and they have good replacements.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I hate the SEC so why would i want to pump them up? I am just being honest and going on what I ahve seen. I do think UL and WVU are top 10-15 type teams, I don't think Rutgers is a top 20 team. The SEC has 5 legiot ranked teams, the BE has 2(RU justn't hasn't proven anything to me yet w/ their sched- beat UL and I change my mind and they deserve to be in the top 10 but they have to do that first).

    Let's compare the ranked teams:

    -Louisville has 1 win against a ranked team which was WVU at home.
    -WVU has zero wins against good teams
    -Rutgers has zero wins against ranked teams.

    In the SEC:

    -Florida has beaten #13 Tennessee at UT and #12 LSU and lost at #5 Auburn
    -UT thrashed #9 California and lost a close one to #12 LSU.
    -Arkansas lost to #7 USC(they didn't have their current starting QB) and beat #5 Auburn at Auburn.
    -Auburn beat #12 LSU, lost to #11 Arkansas and beat #6 Florida.
    -LSU lost to #5 Auburn and #6 Florida and beat #13 Tennessee.

    Each ranked SEC team has played against at least 2 ranked teams. The trio of rabked BE teams have played a combine 2 games against ranked teams.

    The same Louisvilel that barely beat cincy and Syracuse? They would score alot but against better SEC teams they'd give up alot too. Kentucky scored 28 pts on them while UK against UF and LSU scored a combined 7 pts. They actually play defense in the SEC.

    The BE is better than I thought it would be but it's still far from good and the SEC is w/o a doubt the best conf in CFB. There is not a comparison. On a weekly basis the big SEC teams are playing other good, ranked teams. it took until November for one of the top BE teams to play a ranked team.
     
  15. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Kansas State beat Texas.

    Louisville beat Kansas State.

    Any questions?
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    :drunk: :beer: :lol:
     
  17. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Thank you for admitting that now.

    Here's your argument for when you sober up-

    When Louisville won at Kansas State, the Wildcats weren't any good (just like when WVU beat Maryland).

    When Texas lost to Kansas State, it was because the Wildcats found their way and are now pretty good.

    So, Louisville beating a team that beat Texas is nothing.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I didn't admit anything, anything can happen on a weekly basis. UT hasn't played well most of the year as they have escaped a few near losses. This doesn't prove a thing. K State lost 17-3 to baylor .
     

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