You're absolutely right. The problem is unless Trump gets serious, that isn't going to happen. The wall isn't going to help hungry Americans.
Agreed. Hopefully, if nothing else, this election unifies the people and real change comes to a political system that has left EVERYONE feeling disenfranchised. *note i feel just as disenfranchised about our system up here. I hope any changes made down there climb their way up here.
The value of Trump to the open-minded, non-judgemental progressives is he provides them a device to achieve their primary interest -- demean, demonize and marginalize anyone that doesn't tow their nonsensical, emotionally hysteric progressive line. They don't want understanding, compassion or unity; they want to caricaturize anyone who thinks differently than they do as racists, bigots, homophobes, whatever.
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...ebs-who-said-theyd-leave-country-if-trump-won Dozens of celebrities vowed to leave the country if Donald Trump won the White House, saying they’d flee to everywhere from Canada to Jupiter. ADVERTISEMENT The threat is a common one after any election outcome: Canada’s immigration website crashed from heavy traffic as it looked increasingly likely that Trump would win. But after the real estate mogul clinched the presidency in a stunning victory early Wednesday morning, some of those stars will face questions about making good on their promise. Here is a list of some of the celebs who claimed they would move out of the U.S. under a Trump administration. Actors Bryan Cranston said he hopes he doesn’t have to pack his bags, but would “definitely move” if Trump won. “Absolutely, I would definitely move,” the “Breaking Bad” star said on “The Bestseller Experiment” podcast. “It’s not real to me that that would happen. I hope to God it won’t.” Samuel L. Jackson slammed Trump for running a “hate”-filled campaign and said he would move to South Africa if he wins. “If that motherf---er becomes president, I’m moving my black ass to South Africa,” the movie star quipped to Jimmy Kimmel. Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.” The star and creator of HBO’s “Girls” has been a vocal advocate for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. Neve Campbell, an actress on the political drama “House of Cards,” vowed to move back home to Canada, while “Orange is the New Black” actress Natasha Lyonne said she would hightail it to a mental hospital. Singers Cher tweeted this summer that if Trump gets elected, “I’m moving to Jupiter.” Miley Cyrus wrote in an emotional Instagram post in March that tears were running down her cheek and she was unbelievably scared and sad. “I am moving if he is president,” the young pop star said. “I don’t say things I don’t mean!” Barbara Streisand, a vocal Clinton supporter, told “60 Minutes” that “I’m either coming to your country if you’ll let me in, or Canada.” Ne-Yo told TMZ last month that he’d move to Canada and be neighbors with fellow R&B singer Drake if the country elected Trump. Comedians Comedian Amy Schumer said in September that Spain would be her destination of choice. “My act will change because I will need to learn to speak Spanish,” Schumer said in an appearance on the BBC’s “Newsnight.” “Because I will move to Spain or somewhere. It’s beyond my comprehension if Trump won. It’s just too crazy.” Chelsea Handler said she already made contingency plans months ago. “I did buy a house in another country just in case,” the comedian and talk show host said during an appearance on “Live with Kelly and Michael” in May. “So all these people that threaten to leave the country and then don’t — I actually will leave that country.” Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart said he would consider “getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because clearly this planet’s gone bonkers” if the real estate mogul wins. Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the “The View”, said on an episode of the talk show earlier this year that if the country elects Trump, “maybe it’s time for me to move, you know. I can afford to go.” Keegan-Michael Key said he would flee north to Canada. “It’s like, 10 minutes from Detroit,” the comedian told TMZ in January. “That’s where I’m from; my mom lives there. It’d make her happy too.” Hispanic comedian George Lopez said Trump “won’t have to worry about immigration” if he takes the White House because “we’ll all go back.” Political Figures Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joked in an interview with The New York Times in July that it’d be time to move to New Zealand if Trump were to win. “Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,” she said quoting her husband who died in 2010. “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.” Ginsburg later apologized for her comments, calling them “ill-advised.” Civil rights activist Al Sharpton told a reporter earlier this year that he’s “reserving my ticket out of here if [Trump] wins.”
Doesn't seem like the democratic base is learning any lesson from this. They continue to insult and belittle the Trump voters, so yeah chances are this thing is going to go 8 years
Only if Trump can be a competent president. If he Kotites the country, he'll get crushed in 4 years from now. OTOH it's a shame if the Democrats don't learn their lesson. Thumbing your nose at fellow Americans gets you nowhere. I supported Hillary because her policies were more coherent than his, but going after Trump supporters as a group is wrong.
nobody really knows what he's going to do. The only thing people seem to agree on is that he's going to launch some sort of major infrastructure project. The big question is what he does on taxes, trade, military, and to a lesser extent social issues. I think any reelection comes down to how well or badly the economy does under him
I didn't vote for Trump (or Hilary) but if he actually does something about our failing infrastructure then he may earn my vote in 4 years (if he actually runs again).
A government-funded infrastructure project sounds more like a liberal idea than anything else. If that's his big thing, I can get behind it (unless the infrastructure he has in mind is a border wall). Right now I have two problems with him as president. One is that the Republicans control the entire government, which means they'll try to force their agenda on him, which in turn will be more elitist and worse for working class Americans than anything Hillary would've done. And second, he doesn't know much about foreign policy. If he surrounds himself with intelligent people, he'll do fine, but if Giuliani or someone similar becomes Secretary of State, we're fucked. I agree regarding the economy.
Fair enough. At the same time he's still identified as a republican, with the Senate and the House completely controlled by republicans. I know he's pissed off a lot of them, but they're still apart of the same party. I don't have exact reasoning based on anything that's been said. But I do foresee them unifying, just as this country needs to do. Love him or hate him, there should still be respect and support for our commander in chief throughout the country. The country has spoken. They wanted Trump and they got him. These protests against him seem incredibly childish, like a kid on the playground that lost in a game of horse.
They have taken to the streets of NYC and Chicago to protest... what exactly are they protesting? Democracy in action?
This could end up being a wild ride. The most important thing you said though is the questions surrounding whom he's going to surround himself with. Hopefully he's not a gigantic pawn in the Republican agenda of making things harder on the working class folks like all of us. I see him butting heads with such agendas before giving in to them. One thing that leaves me somewhat confident in him as President is that he's such an egomaniac that he will be so god damn concerned about his lasting legacy that he wants to do a great job. Regardless if it's for the right reasons or not, he would love to go down in the history books as someone who jumpstarted the U.S. economy at the very least.
They're protesting because they're pissed they lost, like the anti-Obama crowd 8 years ago with the Tea Party protests.
Well. Me too. I express confidence in his want to be a great President. But as said, I think that largely depends on who he chooses to surround himself with. He's a smart guy though. His campaign ended up being brilliant. Hopefully his Presidency is too.
That's a great point (the last part). I've said from the beginning that Trump never wanted to be president and he was shocked when he led the primaries. Now he's president, guess what - he can't live in Trump Tower anymore. He can't run his businesses anymore. He has to move to Washington DC and take a salaried job with 24/7 responsibilities. I'm not so sure he's going to want to run after these four years, and who knows maybe he even steps down before then but I think his ego won't let that happen
