Is MoWilk having a post-contract collapse?

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  1. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    I've heard this for years but I honestly don't know why. I understand you want your ends to have speed and athleticism, but if you can find that in a 300lb guy (I know, very rare) then why does it really matter? Using 300lb DEs certainly can't be worse than using a 300lb linebacker!
     
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    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Def better than a 300 pound LB. However, 4-3 DEs need to be able to contain and pursue. If you don't have that speed there at DE the 4-3 defense is hindered significantly. Probably still better than what we got going currently though.
     
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    IMO it's because 300 pound guys don't have the speed or quickness of 260-280 pound guys.
     
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    Yup. Mo has always dogged it some. His fanboys will tell you the opposite but you only have to watch. He has his money. Good luck with that. I was against the big money for him. But to tell the truth, the more I see of Sheldon, the more I am convinced that the guy is an unstable idiot. Tough situation for the Jets. At least Leonard is busting it.
     
  5. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem with most coaches they are stubborn to the point where they arent ever willing to change there "way" of doing things regardless of how bad the results are.Bowles is a classic example of a guy whos schemes and gameplans fail everyweek but he doesnt change anything until its to late.I wonder if they give coaches IQ tests before they hire them....
     
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    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Correct, and if they do have that size and quickness, they are in the HOF(Reggie White).
     
  7. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I agree, my take on Sheldon is, I think he is more of a playmaker than Mo, but putting him as OLB is a waste of talent. Quinton Coples all over again.
     
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    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Richardson at LB is a prime example of that stubbornness. I would prefer they use a 3-4 and rotate their DL instead of wasting the talents of Richardson at LB, they are getting nothing from him whether he is resting a couple of plays or at the LB position.
     
  9. Sam Hammer

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    I honestly think the Jets are playing too much 4-3, when they don't really have the DEs for it. I can't find the stats on this, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of defensive snaps are in 4-3 this year. Mo is better suited for 3-4. 4-3 DEs are a slightly different breed. I know they are trying to mask the deficiencies at linebacker, but I don't feel the Jets really have the right personnel for that. Mo has generally been more successful generating pressure on the interior.

    Hopefully this year is all about showcasing Sheldon's versatility for trade bait this off season. Full time 4-3 is not the answer. The Jets have to trade one to bolster up the back end.
     
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    Mo out for today's game against Ravens (ankle).
     
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    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we will at least see Sheldon playing with his hand in the dirt now.
     
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    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Shocker. This guy gets paid and dogs it on the field and now won't even play through an injury he would of played through in years past.
     
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    Hey, maybe he will be back to his MONSTER self after a week's rest. One can hope..........
     
  14. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It definitely seems like Mo is dogging it, especially since he has a little bit of a reputation for taking plays off in the past. On the CBS pre-game show, they just said that he has been dealing with an ankle injury. If true, that could explain Mo's ineffectiveness and lack of hustle. If he has been injured, Bowles should have had him sit since he had Williams and Richardson.
     
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  15. Red Menace

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    Or at least give him more time off in between plays and rotate the DL more frequently.

    Mauldin already getting pressure on the QB, I know we don't have insight on what goes on behind the scenes, but Mauldin seems to be in that grey zone like Kerley was with TB.

    I don't know how to read why he isn't getting more playing time.
     
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    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    I agree. But with his reputation, who really knows if he's as hurt as he says he is.
     
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    DLine has played really well without him so far. Maybe they can just sit his ass down til he decides to play with some gusto.
     
  18. BZanZ

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    I made a thread about this that got moved for some reason. In that thread I sad I had never seen a player as lazy as post-$ Wilkerson. Today's performance is what happens when everyone on he d line gives an honest effort. I actually watched him every snap against Arizona and he would give up on every play after 1 second... my guess is just to look like he's doing something.

    Richardson and Williams have 200 times the heart that mo has and i seriously think they should look at moving him. I'd rather play Sheldon in his proper position then have to pay mo to cash in each game.


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  19. hastygreen

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    I don't think they can move him with what he's being paid+ injuries+ its evident he's now taking plays off. Mostly, what he's being paid. 100% agree that Richardson has more heart than him at this point.
     
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    It's to bad romo has so much left on his Deal. I bet Dallas would trade romo and a first for Wilkerson. And we could have just cut romo and save money from paying mo.

    I'm pretty sure romo makes so much we would actually lose money doing that though.


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