whats the biggest issue on this team?

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what's the Jets biggest issue?

  1. Secondary

    23 vote(s)
    19.2%
  2. Quarterback

    47 vote(s)
    39.2%
  3. GM

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    0.0%
  4. Head Coach

    47 vote(s)
    39.2%
  5. Offensive Coordinator

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Non

    3 vote(s)
    2.5%
  1. PulseJet

    PulseJet Well-Known Member

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    I said Head Coach.

    Fitz has been bad, but his interception numbers wouldn't be nearly as bad if the "elite" defense tackled better or covered somebody or god forbid forced a turnover more than once. They have put the offense in holes and made Fitz have to throw repeatedly. You want your elite defense dictating games, not ask you journeyman QB to rally from behind. Sorry that falls on the defensive genius coach.

    And that punt call last week along with some earlier questionable things showed Bowles is either really stubborn or really stupid.
     
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  2. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    Fitz just isn't getting it done. Having a good QB would cover up most of our worts, and no scheme, halftime speech, or in-game adjustment will fix that.
     
  3. VegasMav

    VegasMav Well-Known Member

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    Bowles should change his name to BOWELS because he's crap.

    The problem with this team is the organization builds up us Jets fans only to let them down year after year. SOJ hasn't and never will be an elite team. It's been way too long we enjoyed being on top. The organization sucks us in and then lets us down year in and year out. Time to ponder if it's Woody and the coaching staff or just a flat out lousy organization.
     
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  4. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    there's lots to be disappointed with at this point in the season, but coaching is the most culpable imo.

    the defense is the strength of our talent, and the supposed strength of our coaches.
    they have performed like shite, and have been a liability rather than the unit carrying the team.

    game strategy has severely lacked, and halftime adjustments are non existing.
    the second half scoring deficit is staggeringly bad.

    we are waayyyyyyy too conservative on calls, and it has been impacting games for sure.

    then there is the completely flat emotionless demeanor of the team.
    it doesn't feel like they want it, and that's on the coaches too.
    if this team quits on the coaches, things will get Mangini 2008 ugly real quick.
     
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  5. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Having a competent quarterback. That's always the biggest issue. Every. Single. Year.
     
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  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Fitzpatrick easily dude is trash

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  7. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    This is a very good point and one that hasn't been discussed much. Why do some organizations seem to put competitive teams on the field year after year? Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay, Dallas, to name a few. When's the last time you saw the Jets really fired up to win a game? Unfortunately losing is endemic with the Jets. It's become acceptable. You can easily see it after a loss when they interview the players. There's no anger, no rage. There's only "we have to get better." All the state of the art facilities don't mean anything if the players aren't committed to winning. Losing has become a cancer in this locker room. If it was up to me, I get rid of every player on the Jets right now. Trade the good ones for draft choices and get rid of the rest. Start bringing in players with a fire in the belly even if they aren't that good. Then draft the same type of players even if there is better talent out there. Eventually, you'll build a team that despises losing and you'll also attract the talent too.

    All wishful thinking, of course.
     
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  8. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

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    Coaching period... Just listening to OC and DC during their weekly press conf makes me want to scream. Rogers, our D played well...I mean really coach your D hasn't stopped anything. Then there is Gailey who says, when ask why he abands the run so early, "well you know we were in a hole and had to pass" - Well I guess coach when you have 1 yard to go and you go 5 WR, Really,
     
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  9. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    What is the biggest issue on this team? Throw a dart at the map.
     
  10. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    One word.... ownership. Look at the most successful NFL teams.. Pittsburgh.... the Rooney family. Seattle.... Paul Allen. NE... Kraft. Giants.... The Maras. Even if they aren't football people they understand how to put an organization and accountable hierarchy together.

    Now look what we usually get. The "Jello Of The Month" Club put together by the party major from the University of Arizona!
     
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  11. LAJet

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    QB anc DC are running neck in neck for the worst set back of the year.
     
  12. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    I voted secondary, but I really think the biggest issue is the defensive line. They should be blowing up every single play....or at least 2 out of 3. Instead they just kind of hang out.
     
  13. BacktoQueens

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    i gotta disagree on this to an extent..

    Kraft is just as big a Magoo as Woody... He was a rich fan who bought a team, and has allowed Belichick to do literally everything while he drinks scotch and talks about being 'duped'.

    Seattle just won their first Super Bowl in their existence. they have been very good these past few years, but have hardly been a model of organizational consistency.

    The Giants are as overrated as an organization can be. Even with a good QB and a shit division, they are consistently mediocre to bad.
    i expect more and more organizational upheaval to occur there, continuing with the GM this year.

    Pitt is a very good example which i agree with, as well as Green Bay.
    They have a consistent approach, which has had sustained success, and isn't one person driven.

    The key for Woody, and most owners, is to surround themselves with experienced football people. Create a framework of consistency where the sum is greater than any individual part (unless you have Belichick..).
     
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  14. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    How is it that Bowles gets all the votes, but Mac doesn't gander 1 vote? Both IMO share the responsibility, Bowles with the schematics and Mac with Fitz.
     
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  15. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Signing Fitz was one mistake. Our horrible coaching is a season long debacle.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Chiefs and Seahawks game; Fitz held the Jets back. A QB that could see the field could've won those 2 games for us. Blame coaching all you want, but these players cannot execute. Mainly Fitz, who is on top of that list.
     
  17. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the coaches decide who is playing QB though. They also call the plays for that QB to run. While I agree with you on Fitz you gotta hold Bowles and Gailey responsible
     
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  18. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I do hold Bowles accountable, I would've pulled Fitz a long time ago. The fact that they signed him to the deal and ultimately caved didn't make me all that excited because of the limitations.

    Jets would've been better off trying to see what Petty can do. Gailey I don't think he was all that excited to see Fitz back.
     
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  19. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Is Petty healthy enough to play now?
     
  20. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    If Mac doesn't sign Fitz, is this team better than 1-4?
     

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