So Long 2016.. We hardly knew ye..

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Idzik was smart enough to know Revis was done when we traded him to TB for a haul no less. He sucked there and he wasn't much better in NE either yet we thought he was worth a kings ransom to bring him back. Maccaghann should be out the door with Bowles.
     
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  2. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    We never have a good coach or a good QB
     
  3. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Idzik was so good at replacing Revis with Dimtri Patterson though. He also drafted all-star Dee Milliner on top of that.
     
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  4. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    You've just described the NFL version of a 3-car low speed wreck.
     
  5. CBG

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    C man and you other older guys like myself ,I really am believing that we just won't see another Championship in our lifetime ! we don't ask for much,,all we want is a competitive team that we can be proud of and one that delivers the goods for us just once,,,,not this train wreck we are witnessing
     
  6. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Well I think there is a legit case for negotiation here. If he hits the open market he probably makes no more than $12 million a year. He makes $17 million now. We meet at $14.5 million. Revis gets to remain a Jet and gets paid more than he's worth and we free up money. Cutting Revis only saves us $ 7 million and then we'd have to go out and get another cornerback in all likelihood, so it makes sense to keep him for next year at least.
     
  7. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    At least we did get to see the Jets on Broadway CB.. For that, I am very thankful as a long time fan.
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

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    I would rather replace Revis by drafting 2 defensive backs in the draft next year [combination of CB and FS or CB CB]. Not 2 in the first 2 rounds obviously, but 2 in the draft. I'll take that 7M and put it to better use. I don't even want him back at 14.5M.
     
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  9. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Unless Revis is our last building block for a SB run, he can leave now and take his Island Resort with him. Same goes for Marshall, Decker and Fitz.We're not winning with them and we can certainly lose without them. No way he even gets 12mil. Too much money for a guy with more yesterdays than tomorrows.
     
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  10. MoWilkBeast

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    Isn't his basic salary more in the region of $13m next year anyway? And less again in the following two years. There's a roster bonus in there as well, but I don't think it is a million miles off what you are suggesting in terms of cap hit anyway. Not that he's playing at the sort of level that you would be happy paying him anything like that at the moment.
     
  11. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    According to over the cap he's at $15 mil hit next year.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

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    you waive Revis this offseason. Get out as soon as you can. He will get $15 million next season if he's on the roster the second day of the league year. If they cut him the first day he only gets $6million and you are out of the contract. That's an easy decision
     
  13. NYJetsO12

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    Clean house and start with Bowles firing him today. gailey to finish up this garbage of a year

    That will wake things up

    Come Seasons end dump Revis dump Geno trade Mo goodbye to Fitz don't resign any underperformers offense or defense

    This whole mess started with Mac giving TB everything on D

    Can that idea and become Offensive minded going forward
     
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  14. NCJetsfan

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    I totally disagree. Revis is toast. Saving $7 million is a heck of a lot better than saving $2.5 million. Burris may be ready to start by next season and the Jets will probably draft a CB in the 1st or 2nd round, and maybe another in the 3rd-4th round.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    Revis' cap number for next season is $15,333,333. If they cut him, they incur an $8 million dead money cap hit, and save $7,333,333. It's a no-brainer. He should be history.

    It's a fitting end to his career. He who was so money grubbing and mercenary, to be cut because his play fell off a cliff. He doesn't deserve to get to retire a Jet.
     
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    C man,,,the only thing is ,,I was alive but just too damn young I was 6 when they won it all
     
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    Following is what would happen from a cap perspective if we cut all 4 at the end of this season.

    Revis - $8 million dead money hit on the cap, $7,333,333 in cap savings

    B Marshall - $0 dead money hit on the cap, $7,500,000 in cap savings

    Decker - $3 million dead money hit on the cap, $5,750,000 in cap savings

    Fitz - $5 million dead money hit on the cap, $0 in cap savings

    I'd be surprised if either Marshall or Decker are cut. You'd want Petty, Hack or whomever the QB is to have them to throw to. If the Jets cut them, I think Mac would have an incredibly difficult time getting other FAs to sign here, even if the Jets did have a lot of cap space. IMO it would be worth it to cut Revis if for no other reason than to pay for the cap hit on Fitz. I never want to see his ass in a Jets uniform again. They should be learning plenty this season of how NOT to play from Fitz and have probably already gleaned everything positive from him that they could (what little there was).

    You didn't mention any others, but I decided to check on a few other older vets. I checked on Forte since several posters said that they think he should be benched. If the Jets cut him, they'd incur a $6 million dead money cap hit and would lose $1 million on the cap, so I don't think that would be possible.

    If they cut Gilchrist, they'd incur a $1,250,000 dead money cap hit, but would save $5,375,000 on the cap. Bowles likes him, however, so if Bowles is still here, I'd be surprised to see him go.

    If they cut Clady, they'd only incur a $500k dead money cap hit, and would save a cool $10 million on the cap. His play has supposedly fallen off of late. If true, then I'm not sure he'd be worth bringing back next year, but they'd have to draft his replacement or find another FA OT who was cheaper.

    They'd incur a $625k dead money cap hit with Giacomini, but save $4.5 million.

    With David Harris they'd incur no dead money cap hit and would save $6.5 million.

    If they cut Mangold or he retired (much more likely than his being cut), they'd incur no dead money cap hit and would save $9,075,000 on the cap.
     
  18. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Just remember I said 4-12 way B4 the season even began & all you geniuses flamed me for it. Maybe it is time for all U so called FB genius to start looking at the NYJs with your head instead of your heart. :mad:
     
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    Clady is fine and you aren't going to find a decent LT for cheap anyway. He is a good restructure candidate because he is a veteran and his contract only has 1 year left. You pickup the $2.5 million option in February and restructure, giving him a couple more years with piece of mind, and to bring down that 7.5 million base salary. if the stays healthy you have yourself a friendly LT contract.

    Decker's contract is fine as is. $9 million for a decent, reliable WR is fine. Don't even restructure that one.

    Gilchrist, Harris and Revis: yes you cut them. reap the savings and move on
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Ewbank?:mad:
     

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