2016 Presidential Race

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  1. JetsVilma28

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    He doesn't support the tax code in that post, merely state the fact that you only have to pay what the tax code states. It in no way states the tax code isn't flawed as is.
     
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    Certainly the point was made there that there is a difference between what some consider "fair" and the law as it is written; the inference being that is okay. Getting back on track, my point was that we have a problem when the law rewards incompetent business people by shifting the tax burden to others and Trump is not the guy to correct that.
     
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    If you read the article he made 104 million between 2001 and 2014. He made a ton of money when Bush was President. Everyone in Congress with a few exceptions have gotten rich while in Congress and become richer after leaving doing lobbying work. We have a Crony Capitalism. Trump has played it like a fiddle himself. The idea that a rich insider who may well be broke who appears to have ADD is going to fix it is laughable.

    Donald may well be broke and needs the Presidency to pay back his debtors. (It's a more plausible a conspiracy theory as the crap thrown out about Hillary). We simply don't know other then he admits to not paying taxes and we know the reason is a carry forward loss of a Billion dollars that apparently wasn't offset in 20 years.
     
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    People taking losses who risk capital isn't necessarily incompetence. We need people to take risks or we won't have a viable economy. It makes perfect sense to allow losses to be written off against gains.

    The problem Donald has is his argument is he's a great businessman and he's so rich that he won't be beholden to corporate bribes. It's the Black Hat argument. You need a criminal to break into the vault to see if the vault is safe. If in fact he can't offset a billion dollar loss in 20 years and won't release his tax returns, it's likely he cheated on his taxes or he isn't that successful. Either way his rational for being the President becomes a tad flimsy. Unless of course you think we should elect a tax cheat to fix the tax system?
     
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    You didn't answer the questions.
     
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    I'm assuming why Hillary Clinton's speaking fee went up after she was Secretary of State. The reason is simple. She has influence in the current administration and is likely to be the President and will have lots of influence. No different then foreign companies and countries wanting to have business dealings with Donald Trump.

    The fact that companies and countries want to influence our country through people with access is nothing new. The fact that Donald Trump won't release his returns, something that he required of every one of his VP potential candidates and is required of everyone who has to go through Senate confirmation to be in the cabinet or SC is much more troubling.

    I agree that the appearance of impropriety is a huge problem and one that won't be easily fixed since Congress and the President continue to profit from it. The reality is Hillary Clinton, who I don't like or particularly trust, is running against Donald Trump. She isn't running against herself. Donald Trump won't release his tax returns, he claims to be a billionaire who doesn't pay taxes because he carried a billion dollar lose for every 20 years. He has real estate and business dealing with foreign governments.
     
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    It was Bill's speaking fee's that went up I referred to.

    Donald Trump should release his tax returns.

    Given that both are shit choices I take their policy proposals and potential supreme court nominees at face value and decide from there.
     
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    Trump's proposal of deportation, closed borders and taxing the crap out of imports will outright destroy our economy. The Supreme Court needs a hard left swing to get back to the center. The fact is the 2 SC appointments by President Obama where both more conservative then the Republican appointed justices they replaced. It's time for a more balanced court and the Obama administration did an excellent job of moving the court toward the center.

    Trump's attack on a Federal Judge based on his ethnicity is reason enough for him to never be President. The man clearly shouldn't have any say on who gets a lifetime appointment to any Federal district, appeals court let alone a SC justice. He has already exposed himself as having absolutely no clue regarding our Federal Justice system.
     
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    If you're trying to convince me to vote for someone else you're wasting your time. I tend to think enforcing our laws (deporting illegal immigrants) and protecting our border are good policies. I happen to think trickle down economics was clearly very successful in growing our economy at a historical rate. IMO Clinton has much more to disqualify herself from the position than Trump. Just my opinion.

    There are many things I dislike about Trump, but he is certainly closer than the alternative to what I believe is the right direction.
     
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    Even if something happens to our economy, it will recover one way or another, just like it did quite a few times in the past. Open borders, however, can lead to dramatic non-recoverable events for future generations. So, I'll take my chances with the potential damage to our economy over the potential open borders suicide.
     
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    The Obama administration has deported over 2.5 million illegals, btw. It's because he's racist.
     
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    They were rapists...And I assume some were good people.
     
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    Can't argue with that. Can't argue that a large percentage overstayed their visa either.
     
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    This turned out to be totally right on.
     
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    What open border suicide are you talking about. The US has had the best recovery of any country in the world since the last crash. It's not even debatable. We have virtually no unemployment, wages at the bottom are starting to increase, violent crime is relatively low and we have had virtually no inflation. Stocks are at an all time high, borrowing rates are near all time lows. Rather remarkable considering the picture being painted by Mr. Trump.
     
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