The official crap on McCagnan thread

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  1. jetfannerd

    jetfannerd Trolls

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    I think he will regret passing on Paxton Lynch. The kid looked like the real deal in his first action of the year.

    Meanwhile Christian Hackenburg could start for most good high school teams.
     
  2. IsmokePot

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    Stupidity behind your idea but I'm starting to think Mcagnan could be part of the problem. Has nothing to do with passing on lynch and more about his work in the FA market.
     
  3. ToddNoBowles

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    Passed on Paxton and Dak but hey at least we got a QB that is so broken the thought of playing him is shamed upon by the fan bas and a LB that can coverTes


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  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    I'll say this much, this thread is no worse than the Bowles one. If you want to kick and scream that Bowles sucks then you should get on Mac too.
     
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  5. ChrebetCrunch

    ChrebetCrunch Well-Known Member

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    Stop talking.
     
  6. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    Macc came in with a grossly depleted roster and was forced to spend in order to quickly boost the rosters talent level, whilst also rebuild through the draft. The only thing I have a problem with is his selection of Hackenberg in the second round, but I'm not as critical of that pick as some because Hack is 21 years old and I do believe Franklin ruined his mechanics and screwed his psyche by letting Hack get killed behind a horrendous o-line at Penn State. The unfortunate reality is we are seeing free agents not live up to their contracts, regress, and lack of talent in past drafts from Idzik to as far back as Tannenbaum rear their ugly heads. Also, Macc folding and giving Fitz 12 mil was also not a good move... but I can't come out and blame Macc for what I'm seeing on the field. I see a team that is poorly coached, unmotivated, and sloppy playing against better competition. I see a journeyman qb returning to his historical average play, and I see a HC who is unwilling to adjust and make the tough decision of pulling a 12 million dollar qb, and also addressing the secondary.
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Er U forgot about 4th round Dak :mad:
     
  8. gordy

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    I like Mac. Bowles is the problem.
     
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  9. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    The Jets will never win without a franchise QB. Until they find one everything else is just hit or miss years and SOJ.
     
  10. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    No one is perfect

    Mac has definitely pulled a few bad moves but I would say that's only 30 percent of the time Yes our draft choices especially missing on a really good QB is a fault, signing Gilchrist/Skrine was meh, handing Mevi$ 39 million was absurd Believe it or not Fitzs year contract is only 12 mil -a relative bargain for a Qb Look at the Texans throwing 74 mil at a kid who played 5 games!

    The Coach was not his hire and TB is a 90 percent bad Coach I give him 10 percent plus for yapping at a presser... whoopee

    I really believe MM will turn it around...or we want our money back lol
     
  11. jetsclaps

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    Every team passed on Dak at least once. Even the team that took him. Picking QB is 90% crap shoot or Rams would have taken Wentz.
     
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  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Maccagnan hired Bowles, who did you think did?

    http://nypost.com/2015/01/13/jets-reach-agreement-with-bowles-to-be-head-coach/
     
  13. PulseJet

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    Until Petty and Hack get actual in game reps, we dont know what the Jets have in them. Get them ready and in the game. Keep drafting QB's. Rinse Lather Repeat.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Maccagnan has been fine so far. Not perfect (I also would have preferred Lynch, and I think the Brandon Shell trade is by far the worst move he's made so far), but he's nowhere near in the negative at this point.
     
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    Maccagnan needs an opportunity to bring in his own head coach.

    It's unfair to judge Maccagnan when he's been saddled with such a poor head coach.
     
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    OH NO..Article makes it sound he was in on the deal but who knows

    Horrible mistake

    let me restate things then

    If story is true then Mac gets it wrong 45% of the time ....not such a wonderful record sorry to say

    His bad choices are costing us

    As a GM you can hire and fire Maybe Bowles makes an early exit before his contract is up......

    Mac is going to get it right...eventually
     
  18. Jet fans deserve an explanation on the passing up of Lynch. I really don't care how much they liked Lee.

    How do you pass on ANY 1st round QB w. our history..much less one who is 6'7 & carried an otherwise lousy team??

    I've generally liked Mac's eye for talent & most of his acquisitions. But I'm not sure passing on Lynch is forgiveable...regardless of what Lee does.

    Yes Lynch needed some time behind the scenes. But that fit exactly into what the Jets wanna do anyway!They want to develop a guy over time. Who exactly was sour on Lynch? Will we ever know the truth? Was it Chan who didn't wanna feature a QB who does most of his damage outside the pocket? Was it Bowles wanting to go defense? Did Mac REALLY like Hack better?We all know Woody's affinity for the QB position & its been widely reported he is present for alot of the QB evaluations. Was HE the one that veto'd Lynch b/c he thought a 1st round pick who needed a year would be bad PR?

    I really would love an answer. Afterall. Whatever genius it was..set us back another 5 years at least.
     
  19. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    Hindsight is 20-10......BUT we do have some young guys at positions that have notoriously been in annual replenishment mode for years on end......specifically LB, WR, and OL.

    Of course we will be sniffing out new secondary help and RB but, IMO, we have some flexibility heading in to next offseason.

    now we already have 3 QB draft picks since 2014 (likely the highest in the league) so we won't take another non first rounder but if we finish this year as feared, we could take another QB next year, high in round one.

    Unless we give the colts a ransom and sign luck. Can u imagine. If us and the colts finish toward the top i could see a scenario where luck bolts the colts and they draft another stud QB
     
  20. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    his biggest problem is neglecting the OL big time. Can anyone believe we STARTED a new season with Ben I. and Quale as our RTs and Winters as our RG. Mangold is not getting younger and neither is Clady.
     
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