Pats 15-1

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  1. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    im really pissed yet I'm also a realist

    The only loss will be against the Jets

    These guys are masterful at gameplanning

    As much as they cheat and push the envelope they deserve respect

    How can no team beat them- makes me sick

    Uggggg
     
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  2. John Lombardo

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    If part of their gameplan was:

    Texans doing a running play on 7 of their 9 first downs, averaging about 2 yards

    Texans running early in the game on 3rd down and 3+ yards to go after consistently getting stuffed

    Texans fumbling twice on kickoffs

    Texans with 3 (or more) pass interference calls

    The D became gassed after the 2 fumble recovery, causing the blowout.

    I give the Pats the most credit for neutralizing Watt and the D line. This is probably one, if not the, worst game the Texans will play this year. Just another example of teams going into Foxborough and totally forgetting how to play football and making poor decisions/mistakes.
     
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  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Tom Brady out for the season week 8.

    Then the Dolphins win the division.
     
  4. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    I'll give them the Arizona game. Especially on the road. But Miami & Houston were absolutely horrendous. Both teams looked atrocious. But then again if I were a N.E fan I'd say N.E caused it.

    vs Bengals.
    @ Pittsburgh.
    vs Seattle.
    vs Baltimore.
    @ Denver.
    Jets x2.

    Brady or no Brady, they'll be tested throughout the season.

    Nonetheless 3-0 without Brady and chances are 4-0 upon Brady's return.

    But I don't picture all these teams above rolling over & playing dead as both Miami & Houston have. Houston with two fumbles off kick returns? Gave them the game. Brock Osweiler looks worse than Mark Sanchez and that's an understatement.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm going to ask a sincere question.

    Are you retarded?

    The Pats were smashing the everloving dogshit out of the Phins before Garopoop got hurt. 21-0. Then they still win with a rookie.

    Now they win 27-0 against the Texans and they look like shit?

    Does logic even exist in your world? You suck Jets dick all fucking day long, I get it, but when you're sitting there rubbing your Kerry Rhodes bobblehead all over your junk while your cat walks around on your keyboard, does it even occur to you that someone in your real life might end up looking at the crap you submit and worry that you are a detriment to society?

    ?
     
  6. John Lombardo

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    Hahaha.

    The fins looked awful 1 half, but they did make a game out of it and the Pats survived that game with a rookie getting thrown into the fire.

    Houston played like dog shit today, it was brutal to watch. Play calling to on field mistakes, I doubt the Pats play a game against an opponent for the rest of the year that has such an inept game on every phase..... And they play the Browns in 2 weeks.
     
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  7. djnva

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    You are acting like the Pats stuffing the run on first downs isn't part of the game plan. It is. They dared HOU to run and then stopped them.

    The D was not gassed after the fumble recoveries--I mean, one drive was one play and after the second fumble and score, the Pats then went 3 and out twice in a row--against a supposedly gassed D? Additionally HOU ran more plays in the first half.

    If you're trying to make yourself feel better, at least be honest about what happened.
     
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  8. John Lombardo

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    You can give the Pats credit on the stops sure, but I blame the Texans trying it 80 percent of their first 9 first downs when it was failing. We blame the Jets when they don't make adjustments, why not here?

    Teams also try to create fumbles every tackle, so I guess we can call those fumbles "apart of the game plan." Let's also say the Texans giving up on their drive at the end of the half, when the Pats were getting the ball in the third "apart of the game plan."

    Gassed, defeated call it what you want. They were done after that 2nd fumble.

    You can put their play today on a pedestal, and I will say they played well while the Texans wouldn't have beaten any other NFL team today either with all their errors.

    I am not sure why I would need to make myself feel better. You're the one who is coming off a little butt hurt here. You also have contributed 8 posts in about a year, and they all have an aspect of trolling to them so keep up the great work kid.
     
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  9. GordonGecko

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    Brissett after 1 game is 10 times the quarterback Geno will ever be. Forget the draft, just source quarterbacks who've been through the Patriots system
     
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  10. CBG

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    The Pats and Belicheat are simply amazing,,,you have to give them props for a 3 and ohh start .
    That said the Texans game plan / play calling was beyond bad,,I mean they played right into the Pats hands with the very conservative play calling.I think the plan should have been to air it out and try and make the rookie quarterback play catchup,,,,,it was sickening watching Broccckkkkkk check down time and again and they were still running the ball down by 20 in the 4 th qtr,,,,,,it made me ill to watch this game
     
  11. James Hasty

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    There is one simple way to beat the Patriots and I am surprised no one has tried it yet.

    Plunge a wooden stake into Bellichek's heart and send him back to hell where he belongs.
     
  12. Burning Elvii

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    Brock didn't take what was there all game

    The easy intermediary.....woulda made the game even

    They ran into a stacked line every first down

    Stupid coaching and QB'ing
     
  13. Aewhistory

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    I don't think teams so much forget to play football, although I get what you're saying. I think the Pats juggernaut has developed into such mythic proportions that teams lose sight of what they need to do. Instead of sticking to what makes you successful as a team (which is EXACTLY what the Pats do) teams think they need to get all cutesy and try to "out think" the Pats. So they do all they funky things with their game plans and throw themselves off more than they throw the Pats off. (Eg- you see this in military history a lot.)

    I bet if someone did a study of the past few years of Pats games you'd see their opponents had gotten into their own heads more than the Pats had. This is how reputation can undermine an opponent. But if you'd simply ignore this and just do your job your chances of victory would climb substantially in my opinion.
     
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  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I think its the case with many teams, mostly teams out of conference that dont play them much. I dont think Miami who plays em twice a year psyched themselves out, they simply got their asses handed to them. Houston too probably. In the past though I do believe there are instances of what you are talking about.
     
  15. Red Menace

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    Lit him up Byz....

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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    brissett didn't do anything but hand the ball off.

    Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, Matt Cassel. Those are QBs that went through the Patriots system. I'll pass on all 3 of those shit bags
     
  17. Red Menace

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    It's easier said then done, Bellicheat won't give them anything deep, he makes sure he always has safety help for his CB.

    He forces the opposition to become one dimensional, every team is going to make an effort to be balanced, but as soon as he starts to win the field position battle he simply chips away at you by putting up points slowly.

    Then the opposition has to stop being balanced and forcing the game to make things happen, if they have enough talent they can do that, and make a game of it, but if they don't have the talent at QB or at other skilled positions, it's just a matter of time before his game plan takes effect and takes the life out of the opposition.

    He takes away their best players and makes everyone else beat them, that's what bothers me the most about him, what he does can be done by any HC in the league, but they insist on trying to reinvent the wheel.
     
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  18. GordonGecko

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    yes exactly, which is 10 times better than anything Geno will ever do
     
  19. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    It's not always the case where a team can do what they do and be successful, what the Pats do better than anyone is to take away your best player and force everyone else to make plays, so unless you have all star players in many key positions, it's just not going to happen.

    An example of that is how the jets played the Texans last year, the jets offensive scheme is 4 and 5 WR sets as we all know, that leaves the RT one on one against the better of the DE in the NFL, in their case it was JJ Watt.

    JJ watt is a playmaker, the jets scheme got Breno smacked around pretty good, JJ watt had a great game against the jets and jets lose.

    The following week last year, and this year, Bellicheat double teamed JJ Watt all game, made him a non factor. How is it that no one makes these types of adjustments?

    I mean really? Are NFL Coaches that dumb that they can't adjust their scheme to account for their oppositions best player and take him out of the equation?


    We as Jet fans get upset when the jets don't double team the likes of Aj Green, or Watkins, they make an attempt at it and then abandon the philosophy at some point during the game, I don't know why, but it seems like the discipline to stick with a game plan and see it through is lacking with most NFL coaches.
     
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  20. strngplyr

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    To be fair on Watt, yes coming into last night he only has .5 sacks in his career against NE, but last night he was definitely not 100%, that helped control him quite a bit.
     
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