Tulsa, Oklahoma Police Shooting

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  1. FJF

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    according to the report she was first on the scene and drew her gun before anyone else arrived. What do you know that says she definitely shouldn't have had her gun drawn?
     
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  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Not sure why you'd quote me with someone else's post.
     
  3. FJF

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    Damnit. Hit the wrong post.
    That was for @Greenday4537
    Sorry
     
  4. JetBlue

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    Feel free to dispute anything I've said rather than resorting to ad hominems. Because your lack of ability to do so only validates that you lack the rationale and intelligence to comment on this situation with any value.

    I'm posting this from the library because I'm homeless and have no life accomplishments.
     
  5. zace

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    Lmao oh yeah i forgot youre the black person expert. You know how we raise our kids and how we were raised. I should take advice from you. You havent made a single point and theres nothing worth addressing. You come spew some stupid bullshit, and have not a single statiatic or truth to back it up.

    You started this crap last time too. Yet you still didnt address anything i pointed out to you last time. But you probably wont remember because you dont have the capacity to remember. So tell me where are your resources on how black people raise their kids? Do they invite you to the black people only meeting? If so im absolutely amazed. If you want to go head to head we can certainly do that but last i checked you couldnt hang the last time we had this discussion, so i dont expect you to this time. I expect you to make some nonsensical answer to try and appear intelligent, but not actually answer a single thing. Very typical or you. Go back to getting your boner from talking about 15 yr old girls like you did in the other thread

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  6. Greenday4537

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    Was he attacking her or anyone else? No. So there was no reason to go from situation normal straight to shooting to kill.

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  7. GordonGecko

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    That's the common problem with virtually all of these shootings - lack of compliance. People need to understand that you need to comply 100% with a cop's instructions during a stop. If you have something to say or do you say or do it once you get permission from the cop and he has everything under control.

    Of course now everyone will say he got shot because he was black, but I bet you the same thing happens if it's some white guy under the same circumstances (not to say if this is a "good shoot" or not)
     
  8. BacktoQueens

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    and yet you come on here, without the facts, also with an obvious political ax to grind, and dismiss the man's death as 'simple as that'...

    obviously it's not so simple, and each case has to be looked at individually.
    looking at this shooting, it sure looks like she panicked and fucked up. guy wasn't compliant, but lethal force was not necessary, and a life was lost over an unnecessary scenario.
    dismissive comments like 'simple as that', are even more obnoxious imo..
     
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  9. JetBlue

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    What'd you point out? That only black people can see and experience the actions of black people and therefore non-blacks aren't qualified to comment on the actions of black people? That's incredible? What is it? Black magic?

    You may want to reconsider whose position is actually racist.

    Couldn't hang? What are, the race junc?
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

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    I haven't read the whole thread , but that many cops and choppers don't show up to a disabled vehicle. We're not getting the whole story here. I read somewhere that this man had a long sheet which included a lot of resisting arrest. Warrant his shooting? No. But for fucks sake why are you walking away and not listening
     
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    If the police are giving lawful orders and you have guns pointed at you, and you decide you can't be bothered with it, and you rumage through you pockets or whatever the hell he was doing besides lying on the ground, can you really be surprised when you are shot dead? Most reasonable people say no. My contention is no matter what the outcome and findings, it is my opinion that some of the blame falls on the deceased. What percentage is still a question.
    I have no political ax to gring but as a veteran police officer I am admittedly biased.
     
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    Exactly. Even if you have a personal problem with authority and law & order or whatever, you need to listen to the police officer's instructions. The courts have always upheld the police's need to gain control of a situation to collect the facts.

    Compliance compliance compliance, this has to be drilled into everyone's head or bad things will keep happening, and it's not because of the suspects' skin color.
     
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    No level of non-compliance should ever result in shooting someone. If you believe it does, then you have no business ever holding a firearm.

    And it still wouldn't be okay even if it were a white guy. But it wasn't. Yet again, a non-violent black person was murdered by cops.

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    Again you obviously have no idea what youre talking about. You still havent addressed how you know how black people raise their kids. Tell me again how my parents told me to respond to police? Tell me again how i teach my kids respond? You not commenting on actions, youre making blanket statements on how people are when you clearly have no clue, because clearly if you interacted with black people enough, you'd know better. Yeah thanks for pointing out how racist i am. You have no clue what youre spewing. I dont know what you think youre doing here, but im not impressed nor am i overwhelmed with your lack of an actual response. Again until you can provide some resource on how any culture, including white people, because clearly you have no idea about that either, raise their kids....i dont wanna hear it and youre not worth the attention youre seeking.

    Just fyi, thats a little stupid to think all white people raise their kids one way. They certainly do not. Obviously youre not smart enough to not make blanket statements about any race.

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  16. Dierking

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    Go re-read your first post in this here thread, skippy.
     
  17. zace

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    None of them were called to him. The chopper was on another call and just happened to be passing by as the husband of the officer was on board so he hung around.

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  18. zace

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    Regardless of skin color you dont have to comply with everything an officer says. Civil rights are a thing ya know.

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    So the guy with 5 warrants doesn't need to submit to police authority because of civil rights? It's called a lawful order and yes, you do in fact need to comply even if you fight it at a later time. His orders were to lay on the ground so he could be taken into custody. Not exactly unconstitutional.
    You have a hard time with reality I can tell.
     
  20. zace

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    She had no idea he had any warrants, you can let that one go buddy. You obviously are having a hard time with reality.....btw if it was so lawful, she wouldnt be getting charges with manslaughter, and there wouldn't be discrepancies in her story. The justice department doesnt get involved for no reason or because theyre board and they damn sure dont give a fuck about appeasing citizens. I dunno where youre an officer at but im gonna take it youre not a NJ state trooper because theres no way in he'll theyd tolerate anything like that after their history.

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