With my sincere all due respect, NCJF, I think your hypothesis as to the cause of Smith's (and Sanchez' previously) troubled mindset is a highly speculative one and an air grasping reach at best. The list of top ranked superstar college QBs who ended up tanking in the NFL is a mile long. It's not like Geno is a victim of PTSD or had his mind tragically warped by having had to endure the torturous, psychological equivalent of being waterboarded as a result of his former NFL coaches mishandling him or the pressures of forcing him to play before he was "ready." In my opinion, one of the most critically important defining characteristics of a top NFL QB is the ability to withstand, perform and succeed under pressure. All the greats have the trait. The greatest among them shine their brightest when the pressure is at its' highest. Some call it mettle. Geno lacks mettle. Forged metals such as steel or aluminum are much stronger, more durable and far less brittle or prone to cracking than their typically cast metal equivalents. I just happen to believe that Geno totally lacks mettle, which, for a franchise QB, is a fatal flaw. Again, no disrespect intended whatsoever.
I fucking love this post so much. Partially because it cuts through the half-assed wanna-be psychoanalysis of the previous poster, but also because it's down to earth, logical, and most likely correct. Great job.
Bingo! You got it! Rex I'm sure, asked them both if they were ready to lead the offense.... I'm sure both of them said yes. How can anyone who has played sports at all "be afraid to make a mistake"? Rex didn't tell Nacho to throw into any of those triple teams, or butt fumble. He committed all those turnovers, like Geno, trying to make a play because pressure of the moment caved inward. Coaches have very little to do with player mistakes. They sure didn't draw it up that way. Moxie, mettle, IT...... Some have it, some don't. Find out who does, and play them. Or should we coddle them for a decade, fire coaches who abuse them by making them play too soon?
It's time for you to find a new boogey man, Ryan is long gone. Smith lives or dies on his own performance.
One thing we have all agreed on is Geno's 2 years of NFL Starting experience gives him an advantage. However, if after all that experience you haven't learned anything, it might not be as important as we all think. Results are the most important and through 2 Preseason Games, Petty has been the better QB. I hope the coaches have noticed.
I think at the end of it all, it will be Chan's decision. He'll tell Bowles what he thinks it's the best option for them at QB and Bowles will kindly accept his assessment as the OC.
No disrepect perceived. As I said, I could be mistaken. We'll probably never know for sure. One thing we do know for sure, however, is that Rex knew nothing about offense and never learned anything about offense or handling QBs while he was HC of the Jets. As I said, it's quite possible, if not likely, that Geno and Sanchez would never have developed any way. They may have developed the anxious mindset anyway because of a lack of confidence or comfort in their offensive system or lack of success. One thing you say in your post is that all the "greats" have that mettle or ability to succeed under pressure. That's true, but how many "great" QBs are there in the NFL? For that matter, how many true "franchise QBs" are there? Certainly not enough for all 32 teams. Therefore, teams have to find players who aren't "great", who have flaws, but whom they hope they can develop, and with whom they can try their best to win. Their OCs, QB coaches and HCs have to be great psychologists and pedagogues and hope that they can maximize their QB's talents and potential and develop him into as near a "great" QB as they can. I believe the environment during Rex's tenure as HC was not conducive to a young QB who wasn't a "franchise" level talent having the ability to develop. IMO neither Sanchez nor Geno were ever potential "greats" or even "franchise QBs." They needed all the help they could get and the right environment if they had any chance to succeed.
As a guy from the outside looking in to your team, I dont even know why this would be a question or debate. If Fitz goes down, and you have to put Geno in, your season is over. He is so, so bad. Whether Petty is ready is irrelevant to me because if you put him in and he stinks, you are still getting the same result as if Geno was in. Geno has proven he's a failure, Petty has not. Save the roster spot and cut Geno.
Are you "Junc" under a different name? Your analysis of QB's is just as his. If I could bet money, I would say you are him.
I don't know what you mean by this. An OC needs to support his QB. Chan supports Fitz, Petty and Hackenberg too I am sure. When he was hired as OC Geno was the only QB he had. Of course he would support him.
Agree and I would add that Chan is a professional and will do what he believes is best for the team. If he believes that Petty is outplaying Geno then he will advise accordingly. I no longer feel that Geno's experience will be a mitigating factor because he is playing exactly like he has in the past which is terrible FB... we all have eyes and so do the coaches.
Well he supports Geno 10x more then Fitzpatrick judging by his quotes to the press. When is the last time you've seen Gailey say something positive about Fitz? He actually somewhat trashed Fitz when he said he was nothing more then the product of the offense. All off-season and throughout OTAs, Gailey kept talking Geno Smith up, Fitz came back and Gailey has been out of the spotlight. Gailey didn't have just Geno that long, they went and got Fitz rather quickly. If it were up to Gailey, I think he would keep all 4
I think that is because he is trying to build confidence in Smith. Nothing more nothing less, it's not working though
He's going to support Geno, especially if he didn't know that Fitz was going to return. Even if he did know Fitz was coming back he is not going to give the media anything to bottom feed on. Behind closed doors it's a different story I'm guessing, and Gailey was a big part of Fitz returning
The issue was they didn't fully trust Geno and didn't know if Petty was ready to compete. Based on that Gailey had to recommend bringing back Fitz for this year. Petty has shown (in 1 game mind you) that he seems as competent or more so than Geno. Let's see who gets reps this week and how they play in game 3. If they truly see Petty as an equal or better than Geno they dump Geno in final cut downs and go with Petty as the #2. If not perhaps they go short a TE or remove FB to go with 4 QB's. I'm indifferent whether they are short a TE (Enuwa is a defacto TE in WR clothing) or dump Bohanan.
