Don't we have US satellite footage or drones following the stupid salvage yard? This was what 2005? Everyone is being watched
Its on Netflix here is the trailer, you are right Phillip Glass grabs you with his music On RottenTomatoes its rated as the best documentary of all time (100%)
Yeah, I went there after I saw your post and saved it. I looked up Errol Morris and it turns out I have another of his films saved, Tabloid, that i never got around to watching. I wasn't familiar with Morris. I'll definitely watch 'em both now tho
This the same prosecutor who lied about his sexting and own issues, but quickly resigned over the scandal once the texts showed up. He is a trash guy
Making A Murderer was good. Dear Zachary and the Paradise Lost Trilogy were far better at evoking the emotional responses Making A Murderer does.
I finally watched this and it's obvious the police planted evidence to ensure a guilty verdict. The only question is whether or not Avery really did it? After reading things like this online, it's tough to say. I think based on the trial (at least what they showed), a not guilty verdict would have to be the conclusion with the key evidence being the bus driver stating that she didn't see Halbach there. Bobby Dassey and the scumbag step dad seem awful fishy with alibi's that don't match up at all. For all the pent up rage of being falsely imprisoned for 18 years one could see Avery losing his cool and killing her if she didn't sleep with him or something.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcn...murderer-steven-avery-s-nephew-brendan-dassey Brendan Dassey has his conviction overturned I would guess this re-opens Avery's case as Dassey was the star witness that lead to his conviction. Dassey's first attorney should be brought up on some sort of charge with the way he set that poor kid up.
If Dassey does get out I could see him pulling the same thing as his uncle and ending up back in very shortly. He was 17 years when he went in, after spending 10 years in max he is not going to do well functioning in the world.
'Central Park Five' - (I have a thing for Ken Burns). Who can forget Trump's newspaper ad? I remember that case like it was yesterday. I thought they were being railroaded, it was just my gut. Also see Michael Crowe.
Do you think Avery did it? I'm not being sarcastic at all, just curious on your opinion on the case Dassey doesn't seem cold blooded at all based on the documentary although it's not as if I know the guy at all. Hopefully he stays clean. If he does, it'd be awesome to see this poor dude go to Wrestlemania. http://brobible.com/life/article/petition-making-a-murderer-brendan-dassey-wrestlemania/
I do think there is a good possibility that Avery did do it. I don't think he should have been convicted though, too many questionable steps taken by the police and DA. Those questionable steps make it hard for me to say one way or the other about Avery though, I just lean towards him being guilty. Purely just gut feeling though. Only 304 more signatures needed for Dassey's petition for Wrestlemania.
Yeah, I hear ya. As you said, there's no way there was evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it, and it was incredibly obvious that the police and justice system were doing all they could to pin this on him. I'm pretty torn on whether he did it or not. The reported sexual advances and Halbach asking to be switched off the account is pretty good evidence that Avery could have been infuriated when she wouldn't sleep with him, although as far as I remember, Halbach was never actually placed in Avery's house (no blood or DNA evidence there). 18 years after a wrongful conviction in prison can really fuck up somebodies mindset to drive them to do something like that.
Morris also directed Fog of War, Mr. Death, and Fast, Cheap and Out of Control, which are all fascinating and effective films. But none are as brilliant as The Thin Blue Line, which is pretty much the (stylish and utterly convincing) boilerplate for all of the true crime reality crap on TV now. It's a masterpiece. Morris is one of my favorites, so I'm sorry to inform that Tabloid is a fail. I've watched it twice, but it doesn't work. Doesn't come together. Also, Steven Avery is guilty. Brendan Dassey is innocent. I actually read a book about the Avery case, The Innocent Killer(?), like a year before Making a Murderer came out. Just picked it up by coincidence. The book is very thorough and never even speculates that Avery is actually innocent. Not that this informed my opinion about Avery's guilt going into the doc -- I actually didn't even realize it was the same case until I was 20 minutes into the film -- but just fyi. The author is very even-handed (imo) and never even hypothesizes Avery's innocence. Because he's not. I'm not saying I'm 100% beyond reasonable doubt. But some of the arguments the doc raises are silly, and I'd happily prosecute Avery. (Whereas prosecuting Dassey is unthinkable. He got railed, and I pray they don't retry him.) But In order to believe that Avery is innocent, you have to espouse a (literally) incredible alternate theory. That's the bottom line. If you think Avery is innocent, tell me what actually happened. Come up with something plausible. You can't. Whatever theory you come up with? It's fucking ridiculous. There is no plausible alternate scenario. Well, the cops killed her and... (STOP) Well, some stranger randomly killed her after she happened to leave Steven Avery's house, and the cops found her dead body nearby, and they HATE Avery (because he was unequivocally cleared of a murder for which he served a bunch of years in prison?!?) so instead of reporting finding a corpse they spontaneously decided and conspired to frame Avery, and they got really lucky because it turns out that she WAS at Avery's house earlier that day... (STOP. Just stop.)
I'm not even going to read that last ridiculous post. Just wow. Way to have an open mind.. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Ps, Dassey better get out, I would throw down on a gofundme for him going to Mania.
"I'm not even going to read... ... Way to have an open mind." That's kind of an ironic reply. Anyway, I'm not without my insecurities. But in terms of open-mindedness? I investigated police misconduct for the city of New York for nine years. I probably interviewed/interrogated about 2,500 civilians and 1,500 police officers of all ranks during that time. I closed nearly 400 cases, and my duties consisted of compiling and analyzing evidence and writing closing reports that had to pass through a team supervisor with 25+ years plus of law enforcement experience, an executive director, and a Board of mayoral appointees. I feel like a fool mentioning all that, but I've never had my open-mindedness questioned before. And also, I've had 19 Bud Lights.
Did you even watch the doc at all? Ps. I did end up reading half of your post. Avery should be a free man, and you're a dumbass if you don't realize that. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
