Fair enough if Fitz is out for the year but there's many times during an NFL season where the backup may need to start or play only a few games One game could easily be the difference between the playoffs and staying home Jets will need to give Petty a look with the starters vs other starters if they are really considering going with him as the backup I know many Jets fans don't like Geno but it's careless to take a chance on your backup when you have a pretty good backup already getting paid next to nothing
Thanks for the clarification. I understand your thinking and position. Your reasoning regarding it being better if Petty develops rather than Geno because Petty will be under contract next season whereas we'd have to sign Geno, possibly to a big contract is both understandable and sound. Looking at it from that perspective, I agree, but things don't always work out so neatly as that. One positive regarding Geno that you may or may not have considered is that if he does develop and wants more money than the Jets are willing to pay, then if he signs with another team, the Jets could get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him. I think Petty may have a higher ceiling than Geno, and in time, would definitely be a better choice for the Jets than Geno, but not for this season unless he really lights it up in the next 3 preseason games. According to the accounts I've read and the quotes from the CS, Petty still has a LOT to learn about playing QB and isn't ready to play yet. I think if Fitz were to go down with an injury, that we'd be much better off with Geno starting in his place. Throwing Petty to the wolves too early could destroy his confidence and chance to develop. IMO it's just not worth the risk. Whatever the case, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next three preseason games and what the CS & FO think and what moves they make. In general, I'd rather not have to keep 4 QBs, but in this case, I think it's probably best. It's too early to give up on Petty, and with the shortage of quality QBs in the NFL, I doubt he'd clear waivers and make it to the PS. Injuries do happen, and it's better to have too many QBs than too few.
Based on the accounts from OTAs and TC, IMO Petty doesn't equal Geno. Petty may have a higher ceiling, but he is not ready to play yet, and he should be given a chance to develop and not be thrown to the wolves like previous Jets' QBs. Geno's experience doesn't count against him. That's absurd. It just you impatient haters for whom it doesn't count as a positive. People learn more from adversity than they do when things are easy and trouble free. Geno may not pan out in the long term, but for this season, if Bowles and Maccagnan seriously think they have a realistic shot at the playoffs, they have to keep Geno. They'd be nuts to go with Petty as the backup. Let's say that Fitz suffers a serious injury, and then Petty isn't ready, plays horribly, gets his confidence shot, and the Jets' playoff hopes go down the drain. What then, sign some old vet off his couch? Throw Hack to the wolves and ruin him? Not only is the season lost, but perhaps the Jets ruin Petty's and Hack's chances in the process.
For one thing, it's only your opinion that Geno has the lower ceiling and that the two are equal. I've seen not one shred of evidence to even remotely suggest that Bowles or Maccagnan see the two as equal. In fact, all the evidence clearly demonstrates that the Jets see Geno as ahead of and better than Petty at this stage in their careers. You have no proof that Petty has a higher ceiling. Just because Petty showed improvement too, doesn't mean that they're equal. Petty had a lot farther to go than Geno. Even though you discount his experience, he's had 3 years to learn to take snaps from under center, work on his footwork, learn to read Ds, and get used to the pace and pressures of playing QB in the NFL. Petty's had one year, and came from an offense that was perhaps worse than Geno's in college. Geno's playing experience and experience in the WCO taught him more about playing QB and playing int he NFL than Petty has learned in one year.
I didn't say that the long throw was the great throw. The great throw was on the first throw to the sideline. Your statement that there isn't a worse corner in all of football is patently untrue, asinine, and causes you to lose any credibility on the issue. You're obviously blinded by your hate and are biased in how you look at him.
The book on Geno from the Rex era was he looked great in practice but fell apart in games. He didn't play poorly last night but he made a few mistakes that I think affirmed his rep. I was impressed with Petty. He threw the ball well. I think that pass to Amaro was a good throw, but Amaro broke stride midway on the route. If he kept pace the ball was on the money. The sacks were due to poor blocking, particularly Sudfeld. The biggest thing was he looked like he was running the offense, as said in an earlier post.
For the long term I wouldn't cut Petty. We might not need him this year but in 2017 and 2018 he could end up being valuable. If Petty catches Geno by the end of the preaseason, cut/trade Geno. Otherwise take 4 QBs.
I'm going to assume that you understand concept of "IMO", after all you used it in the past. It is my opinion that based on what I saw in the 1st preseason game, Geno and Petty are about the same. In fact, I think Petty is slightly ahead of Geno, again, based on the last game. Why are you all of a sudden asking for proof and evidence of that? Do you expect me to lend you my eyes? " Geno's playing experience and experience in the WCO taught him more about playing QB and playing int he NFL than Petty has learned in one year" I'm not sure you understand what you just said. Them playing on the same level means Petty in 1 year learned what took Geno 3 years... this is kinda by definition. Which again, raises the question of their respective ceilings. (Hint: Looks like Geno is close to his) Now.. stop hanging on experience. If Petty is indeed at the same level as Geno, why can't he handle a few starts? Because it would ruin him? By this logic, Petty should never start an NFL game else he will be ruined.
Amaro looks like a puss. The pass that Petty threw down the side line, Amaro let up, slowed down, cause he was gonna get popped when he caught it. You could say it's a pre-season game, but as it stands, he better be thinking about making the team. At least Sudfeld catches balls in traffic with hits coming. Amaro doesn't look special to me, and better catch everything to prove himself.
Milner was in position, just awesome catches two plays in a row. As long as he is healthy, he will probably be ok. If he gets hurt again for the season or big length of time, it wouldn't hurt to move away from him. Also Burris looked promising for a young guy. Hopefully something good comes of him with time.
I liked Shell. Big, long, kind of nimble for a big guy. The pedigree is there anyway. With Clady having injury issues the last couple years, he may be a decent back up.
With all of the failed mid-round picks spent on offensive lineman over the past ten years and the patchwork we've done with veterans in free agency, it's about damn time we get [at the very least] a solid backup along the offensive line. This team badly needs one of the young blockers to turn into a starter, or else we're going to struggle mightily in revamping the offense over the next two years.
Everything you said, I believe is true. I hope him and a couple others along that line, turn into something great.
Tom Brady didn't have any experience to speak of when he took the reins in NE. I don't think QB's get ruined by playing them early in their careers. They can either do it, or they can't. Montana was a backup when he began his playing career, but it wasn't long before he was playing. He didn't have experience to speak of when he became the starter either. The concept of ruining QB's by playing them too soon is way over rated. IMO
Argee. We may have ruined a couple, but that was more to do with the incompetent buffoon running the team than anything else. It could also be, they were not going to be good to begin with.
I liked the way Petty held his poise while he was pressured and delivered the ball. Although Geno started slow, the laser for the td to Peake jumpstarted him to play better. All I wish is Fitz had either of those guys arms...
He may have a high IQ off the field, but there aren't too many football geniuses that dive head-first the way he was last season.
