Correct me where I'm wrong. Everyone seems petrified of this schedule ex: first 6 games. Guys, there's not one team (on our schedule) that doesn't look at us as an overall tough matchup. Take a look from the other side an opposing fan base would be naive to overlook the Jets as nothing but a win penciled in. ■ We're coming off a 10 win season along with a solid offseason, right? ■ We're returning a coaching staff under Todd Bowles that'll have a lot more overall team and player familiarity when compared to last year, no? ■ We're returning an offense that'll have more overall chemistry, cohesion & offensive continuity when compared to 2015 with the likes of Fitzpatrick, Marshall, Decker, Powell & Enenuwa all returning. Why with the likes of Matt Forte signing as well as Amaro returning shouldn't we expect a much more balanced, efficient & produvcive offensive attack? [If we ranked 10th in offensive yards last season who's to say we aren't on the verge of fielding a top 5-7 offense this year? If we finished 11th last season in points scored @ 24.2 points per game why can't we expect a top 5-7 scoring offense this year?] ■ We've all complained about not having a physical Safety for the longest. Our fan base ran Kerry Rhodes out of town due to his pretty boy lack of physicality style of play. Do we not (finally) have that in an up & coming animal of an aggressive, nasty, physical Safety in whom plays the position with toughness & hard hitting ability unlike Kerry in Calvin Pryor a.k.a the Louisville Slugger @ SS? ■ Have we not all complained as a fan base about the lack of speed, athletism, coverage ability and youth at our Linebacker positions over the years? Are we not currently surrounding David Harris with all of the above regarding Mauldin, our 1st rounder in Lee & edge setter/pass rusher in Jenkins? [If we ranked 4th in yards allowed behind only Denver, Seattle & Houston last season, why can't we expect a stout 1-2 defense in yards allowed this year? If we ranked 9th in points allowed last season shouldn't we expect a top 5 scoring defense especially with an improved special teams?] We can play this game forever but if we would've just shown up off the bus against Buffalo we're a 12-4 team. "Schedule this and schedule that". "7-9 floor with a 9-7 ceiling" etc, etc seems to be the talk of the town heading into 2016. My Bold Number One Question is This: As a fan base when was the last time we've had a team with this much overall balance and capability? Because i'd like to know imo you'd have to date back to 1998 under Vinny & Parcells because it most definitely wasn't 2009/2010 nor as recent as last season. At least not from my perspective at least. With all that said why can't we and/or why shouldn't we expect an 11 or even a 13 win type of team behind a familarized coaching staff, an experienced offense having more chemistry, a should be dominant defense with a stronger special teams? In closing these are the types of questions you should ask yourselves before automatically assuming the Jets of 2016 won't be considered as serious AFC contenders this up coming season and/or the types of questions that must be answered for the fans who feel embarrassed for talking up this team due to the stigma of "SOJ" from longtime suffering Jet fans who wouldn't recognize a serious contender even if were starring at them directly in the face... (rant over). If anything a tougher schedule could become a blessing in disguise because if this team plays up to it's abilities a stronger schedule will just mean they're a battle tested team heading into postseason play.
The biggest question mark is the depth of the offensive line and how the overall effectiveness of the unit will be. Gailey masked that possible deficiency with a quick passing attack, and it seems that they're trying to open up a deeper passing attack from camp reports. In short, if one of Clady/Carpenter/Mangold miss a significant amount of time we're in deep shit. The right side is pretty bad although Giacomini is a decent run blocker and our only prayer with Winters is that he takes a Matt Slauson-esque leap into a viable NFL starter. If they stay healthy, we're in very good shape to be a playoff team. If they don't, we could be bottom feeders because there's virtually no backup with any real NFL experience on the roster.
Totally agree about our O Line. There were a lot of complaints about how Fergusons play had slipped over the last two years vs his cost. However you felt, one thing was undeniable: the guy was the definition of dependability. He never missed a game/snap/practice in 10 years. Now there's a question mark. Mangold ain't a spring chicken anymore either. Brother man's missed a bit of time (small amount) over the last few years and who's best play is behind him. As mentioned above, we look deep going into training camp at a number of positions........offensive line isn't one of them.
Well, maybe. We have a harder schedule this year, but remember, we're a much better team. Last year was our rookie endeavor with a new HC and coaching philosophy, new QB, new everything. And we won 10 games. This year we're a year in. Every starter knows the playbook going in. A lot of offensive nuance that Chan Gailey couldn't touch last season he can start working on this year. Mauldin and Williams are no longer rookies looking for playing time. Molasses Pace and Davis are gone, replaced by youth and SPEED. There's reasons to think yes, we can win 10-11 games in yr two.
I am not trying to be sarcastic, and I am not good at math, so please help me out. How mathematically speaking does having a 10 percent chance of winning all six of our division games imply a record of 11 and 5?
its about time one of these damn mid/late round offensive linemen they draft every single damn year becomes worth a shit. Its unbelievable. Since 2010 (3 GMs), 8, count em' 8, offensive linemen drafted between rounds 2-6 and not one of them is worth the damn pen it took to write their name down. Oh there's Winters...? ehhhhhhhhhh
To be fair MM has drafted 2 of them and both were 5th rounders ... gotta give em another year or 2 at least before we could judge them ... here's a thought maybe we should use a 1st or 2nd rounder on OL which I think will be a top priority in 2017 I would also like to note that the guys we were targeting ... Decker, Spriggs were taken just ahead of us the domino's didn't fall for us in regards to the OL this past draft.
really don't know why it's SO hard to scout lineman (outside the 1 or 2 top guys who go in the first 10 picks every year). Maybe the type of football played in college doesn't give scouts what they need to evaluate these guys?
Idk, I think I disagree just a little. Not on anything you say about MM or this year's draft because who knows, its too early, but on the concept that they have to take an OL early in the draft or that it sucks because they haven't. I look at a team like Carolina who has perhaps the best OL in football outside of Dallas and their best lineman was selected late in the 3rd round, they start a couple UDFAs they found, a 2nd rounder, and a journeyman in Oher who is perhaps their weakest link despite being a 1st rounder once upon a time. This has allowed them to stock up on that awesome defense and skill positions in the draft. Oakland and Green Bay, other teams who have built good offensive lines in this same time frame through mid/late round picks. and yet the Jets take one every year and they always suck
Look the jury is still out on Qvale, Dozier, and Ijalana ... they could turn into solid lineman I will reserve judgement on Shell and Harrison. the last time we focused on the OL in the early part of the draft in netted us Brick and Nick as you pointed out Dallas they went OL heavy and it paid off.
You mentioned a few teams and yes they lucked out but the NFL has 32 teams think how many of their late round lineman have failed.
Historical year!!!! IF the whole group, esp offense, stays healthy we are force to be recond with 11-5 We win AFC East Oakland , Jax, Houston are interesting contenders but to h*ll with them Lets do this already..... J-E-T-S
Working backwards, going 11-5 means we have an 11/16 chance of winning any game on average. To sweep the division, we need to win 6/6 divisional games. The odds of going 6 for 6 with an 11/16 chance of winning each game are (11/16)^6, or 10.6%.
I'm expecting somewhere between 8-8 and 11-5 depending on injuries, team chemistry, etc. I think the Pats stand atop the conference pretty comfortably with an elite offense and a defense that should be top 10 again. After that it's pretty wide open among teams like the Steelers, Bengals, Broncos, Chiefs, Jets, maybe even the Texans and Raiders and Ravens. Should be an exciting, unpredictable year in the conference.
i think this team can be really good, i just don't want to potentially go 2-4 in the first 6 games and have the fanbase shit themselves
