Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.justthefacts.org/get-the-facts/when-life-begins/

    Check out the video clip from the science series "Through the Wormhole" with Morgan Freeman (on the Science Channel). It's a scientific fact that life begins at conception, and that makes abortion a human rights issue more than a religious one. A common misconception today, sadly. ...but on this 4th of July, I have hope that just as we ended slavery and other civil rights injustices in this country, we will end abortion as well.
     
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    Morgan Freeman.

    Scientist.

    Surgeon.

    Theologian.

    Vice President.

    Elder statesman.

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    Again, I ask, "Who reviewed this piece of crap?" He may be a well qualified expert on the human colon but that doesn't make his viewpoint on religion any more viable than yours.
     
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    Ended slavery yes, and who can we thank for that? The bible condones slavery. you can learn how to beat a slave perfectly to where he or she does not die and can still work the next day. it's a remarkable and spiritual book taken as a whole, there's also great tips on child sacrifice, treating women like cattle, how to sell your daughter into slavery, and how she should be stoned to death on her fathers doorstep if she is not a virgin on her wedding night, how to sacrifice animals, who to kill and why, it's wholesome, spiritual, and fun iron age barbarism for the whole fuckin' family.
     
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    Well, that's just nitpicking, Tommy, isn't it?
     
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    i'm a tad jaded ain't I?
     
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    Yeah, let's ask a fetus what he thinks about this matter before talking human rights. And don't pretend you care when life begins, that has been a distraction from the pro life people since the beginning. You guys care more about the so called soul, something we know nothing about and can't even prove exists. If your belief system is real, then abortion is terrible because you only get one life and then have to spend eternity thinking about it. In the 99.9% chance that your religion is wrong, it could actually be considered merciful. You guys love to try to legislate your belief system.
     
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    You want to see a pre-sentient life form expressing itself, check out Husker in the Democratic Nomination thread.
     
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    But science CAN'T disprove it--therefore...GOD!

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    Fetus?....wasn't that the Dennis Weaver character on Gunsmoke?

    I call it uterine content... .
     
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    bingo! actually its quite refreshing if you ask me, progress almost
     
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    I've avoided this thread and won't debate my beliefs one way or the other, because religion is too subjective and intimate. This guy, though, Ravi Zacharias, debates it better than anyone I've ever seen. I really do enjoy watching the guy on an intellectual level, because wherever he goes there is a long line of young agnostics and atheists think they have single smartest question that he can't possibly answer - but then he does. No matter the question, he's able to make a faith-based argument with logic and history behind it.


     
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    Yeah, just another humble follower...with a net worth of $270 million.
     
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    We already live by subjective morality, and I'm not sure how he even remotely came close to answering the question.
     
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    Come on, Sundayjack, make this boring pile of shit thread interesting. I'm tired of even the lowest tards on this forum crushing the one opposing voice.
     
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    He really doesn't. At all.
     
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    WeIl, the brilliant dink with scarf and the hoodie asked a stupid question. "Why are you afraid of subjective moral reasoning?" What exactly should the answer to that be? People are entitled to their own beliefs and they're allowed to identify the source of their individual moral code as they see fit. There's no true answer either way. No provable answer either way. Stephen Hawking and Ravi Zacharias have an ongoing friendly debate at stalemate. By Hawking's own admission. There's no answer. That's why it's called father. My sense is that there are geniuses here that would be re-seated probably much quicker than this look-at-wonderful-me grad student.
     
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