Let's question the frequency with which citizens are killed by police. I posted yesterday 1000 deaths by cops in 2015. Does that not seem high to you? That is fucked, man.
BTW, in this latest murder, the car was pulled over for A BROKEN TAIL LIGHT. But please, let's wait for more facts to come out. the officer may have been in danger since the passenger glanced at him crookedly. What a giant fucking pussy.
Yea - and you stopped responding to the conversation when I asked questions. Let's try again. Do you believe there are situations where police killings are justified?
. It's a flat out false statement that they are trained to shoot their gun at the sign of "slight discomfort." they are not trained that way and I dont know where you got that.
Of course. Police killings are justified when a firearm or giant knife is being shoved in their face. Short of that, they need to learn how to detain criminals WITHOUT KILLING THEM.
Of course they're not trained that way, and I know that. I'm saying training goes out the window with pussies like this guy in Minnesota and they become trigger happy way too easily.
Unless you dispute that the tail light wasn't broken that's just as irrelevant as the victim's previous record. A claim you made in another post. He wasn't shot because of a tail light.
There has to be more than 1000 people killed by cops in 2015. The country has 320 million people living in it, that number seems incredibly low unless that is 1000 deaths that are controversial??
So how many of those 1000 killings were justified? Do we have any kind of metrics on that? It's not reasonable to just assume most of the 1000 are not justified. There are a tremendous amount of police encounters on a daily basis.
There are a tremendous amount of police encounters and these police officers deal with society's worst on a daily basis. Something people often forget. I wasn't shocked by that number and I am honestly surprised it wasn't higher.
You're right. But now because of cell phone videos we're able to see many of them are not justified. And these are the only ones we have on video. You'd have to imagine there are many more not on video that are murders, like the ones yesterday in Louisiana and Minnesota.
My point was that it's alarming that a routine police stop for a broken tail light devolves into a fatal shooting in minutes. That should never happen, and it speaks to poor policing (and this is me being kind).
This video didn't show us shit and the one you posted the other day was inconclusive. The problem here is you making assumptions.
You don't know what fucking happened dude. It doesn't speak to anything unless you're making wild assumptions. If the guy reached towards an area with a gun, the cop shoots every time and it's justified.
The man told the police he was a licensed gun owner. Maybe his wallet was in the same area as the gun. You don't know what fucking happened either. But somehow you always side with these pussy cops.
no I don't think we can/should make that generality. What if the next time he pulls someone over for a routine tail light and the guy actually does want a shootout? what if its a terrorist on his way to mowing down a gay nightclub? That's the kinda world these police live in. To an outsider like us its a "routine" tail light stop but these guys are/have to be alert at all costs because you never know.
I know what your argument is. Just think you need to be a little more skeptical of ubiquitous () police violence.
As a former police officer and someone with a current concealed weapons permit, the driver was irresponsible. There should have been zero question in that officer's mind as to what was transpiring. Zero doubt because the driver needed to be extremely clear as to what his status was. "Officer, I know your asking for my ID. That information is in my wallet. My wallet is close to the weapon holstered in my waste band I have a permit for." I would have asked him to keep his hands up, exit the vehicle, removed the weapon from him and taken out his wallet for him. He would get everything back after the traffic stop was over.
thanks for your thoughts. Not challenging them at all, I just have a question because I don't have a concealed weapons permit myself. As a part of the process to get one, are people taught about matters like this?? I imagine that it varies by state of course but as a part of getting one are people told, okay now that you will have one you should learn the procedure of dealing with law enforcement when you have this. I'm just asking because I want to know how possible it could be that the deceased here wasn't aware
