Brexit!

Discussion in 'BS Forum' started by Sundayjack, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    [​IMG]
    _
     
  2. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    Wyoming.

    [​IMG]
    _
     
  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    8,962
    Likes Received:
    7,889
    Honestly, I have not put money in the stock market in a couple of years, It has been sitting on the sideline, the Market has been in the same range (16,900-17,800) for some time now.

    I'll wait for a major correction when it goes down again and throw tons of money in.

    It has worked very well for me to be patient and not get caught into other people's idea of when to buy and sell.

    I don't read money magazines...etc

    I just pile up tons of cash and when the Market suffers a major correction, I throw all of the money I saved in the blue chip stocks, dividend paying stocks, not at one time but gradually.

    I stay away from growth, emerging markets, spider...etc

    It has worked for me.
     
    TNJet likes this.
  4. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    15,053
    Likes Received:
    9,300
    Death wish.
     
  5. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2014
    Messages:
    6,681
    Likes Received:
    4,138
    Taurus was by the band 'Spirit'. People were claiming on youtube for like 15 years that Zep stole the intro to Stairway from that song. The estate from the deceased writer of the song decided to see if they could cash in. I didn't think they were gonna win tho.
    Spirit was a nice band from back then at any rate.
     
    nycarl likes this.
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    My guess is that the path out of the EU flows through the normal electoral process at this point. No PM anywhere is going to be stupid enough to follow Cameron's lead and offer a referendum unless they have no other choice. So the way out will be politicians running on exiting the EU and offering a referendum on the subject if elected. That will make the need for a referendum just a formality at that point. If the guy who is offering it is elected/re-elected then you have to assume the country is exiting if he/she wins.
     
  7. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    9,113
    Likes Received:
    3,142
    Idk but I'm guessing the rest will stay.

    Sent from my BLU LIFE ONE X using Tapatalk
     
    Br4d likes this.
  8. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    11,675
    Likes Received:
    5,905
    Kind of like the way you are trying to distract from the fact that Muslim immigration has not been a beacon of progress in Europe by arguing that Americans are lazy.

    Seems you are well schooled in the distraction game.
     
  9. nycarl

    nycarl Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    183
    To me this has always been the most obvious of LZ's many ripoffs. They've settled lots of lawsuits over the years including one for this song.
     
  10. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    12,286
    Likes Received:
    3,954
    Don't forget destruction of the great barrier reef...

    Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
     
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    27,793
    Likes Received:
    29,005
    France will be next. Germany is pushing people around in the EU and if there's one thing the French hate its Germans.

    They elect a new President in 2017 and one of the candidates gaining a lot of popularity is the female version of Donald Trump who has said she would hold that same referendum as soon as she is elected. Get ready for Frexit lol
     
    #151 BrowningNagle, Jun 25, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2016
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    27,793
    Likes Received:
    29,005
    also lost in this story is the resignation of the Prime Minister. Talk about a leader with his country most in his heart above himself.

    "The British people have made a very clear decision to take a different path. And as such I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. .... I believe its in the national interest to have a period of stability and the new leadership required."

    Holy shit that would NEVER happen here in America. We see presidents elected 51%-49% and they see it as a decree that the American people wants all their policies and if you don't agree then tough luck.
     
  13. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2003
    Messages:
    8,145
    Likes Received:
    1,009
    Already did.
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    A parliamentary system is very different from the electoral system we have in place. Presidents get 4 more years. Prime Ministers get until the voters are fed up, which can be a fairly long stable period, as England has typically had, or a short rocky series of divorces in the Italian style.

    Cameron screwed up at a level that demanded his resignation and he followed through and did what was expected of him.

    Lost in all of this is the fact that he had already negotiated very favorable terms for Great Britain to remain in the EU and the voters told him to go stuff it anyway. That's a resignation level event.

    Cameron is going to go down as one of the two or three worst Prime Ministers in British history and he fully deserves that reckoning at this point.

    Cameron is going to be a Mikhail Gorbachev level failure by the time history has fully reckoned the damage he caused.
     
    #154 Br4d, Jun 25, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2016
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    I sincerely doubt this. Elderly French remember what cheese-eating surrender monkey really means. They'll vote to stay in Europe.

    If the older English voters had done this there'd have been no Brexit.
     
  16. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    572
    And rising waters from global warming affecting Indonesian islands...Poverty on the rise...Fracking continues to pollute our lands and water supply... Great world we live in
     
  17. deathstar

    deathstar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2010
    Messages:
    2,400
    Likes Received:
    266
    Definitely on par with Neville Chamberlain...

    3 main pledges of Leave Campaign already walked back:
    1. NHS - was a lie
    2. Immigration - was a lie

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics...on-nhs-spending?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook

    3. Economy with no change - Pound got smashed, billions wiped out, GDP estimates slashed, UK could be broken up.

    Gullible older voters got fooled...News at 11.
     
  18. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    9,113
    Likes Received:
    3,142
    Four Brexit Promises That Have Already Gone Up In Smoke
    Vote Leave, take back the status quo?


    Immigration

    On the eve of the referendum, immigration was seen as the most important issuefacing the country. Throughout its campaign, Leave put immigration and border control at the forefront.

    View image on Twitter
    [​IMG]



    The tone of the campaign was heavily criticised – even prominent Leave campaigner Michael Gove said he “shuddered” at the UKIP poster below.

    View image on Twitter
    [​IMG]


    But although Vote Leave pledged to implement a “points-based non-discriminatory” immigration system modelled on Australia, no specific commitments to reducing the number of people coming into the country were made.

    Hours after the Brexit vote was confirmed, Leave campaigner and Tory MEP Daniel Hannan said people expecting immigration to come down would be left disappointed.

    “People are grown up and they understand this isn’t something that can happen tomorrow,” he told BBC News.

    “No one has ever suggested there is going to be no immigration.”

    On BBC2’s Newsnight on Friday, presenter Evan Davis was literally left with his head in his hands while discussing the issue with Hannan.

    “I’m sorry we’ve just been through three months of agony on the issue of immigration,” Davis said. “The public have been led to believe that what they have voted for is an end to free movement.”

    “We’ve always been clear we want a measure of control,” Hannan said.



    The NHS
    Remember the Vote Leave claim that we could fund the NHS by £350 million a week if we left the EU? How could you miss it:

    [​IMG]
    Matt Cardy / Getty Images

    One of the most repeated soundbites of the campaign was also one of the mostly widely debunked: £350 million is the amount of money the UK contributes to the EU a week, but it does not take into account the UK’s special rebate, which would in effect lower the weekly contributions to around £250 million.

    In addition, because EU funding was re-allocated to the UK – such as university research or investments in infrastructure – the net figure is about £175 million a week.

    In an appearance on ITV’s Good Morning Britain after Leave won the vote, UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the £350 million claim was a “mistake”.

    Asked by presenter Susanna Reid whether he could guarantee we’d be spending £350 million a week on hospitals, Farage replied: “No I can’t. I would never have made that claim. That was one of the mistakes made by the Leave campaign.”

    He added: “It wasn’t one of my adverts.”




    Taking back control
    [​IMG]
    Wpa Pool / Getty Images

    As well as immigration, getting rid of unelected bureaucrats and restoring British sovereignty was a central message of the Leave campaign. Speaking during a Sky News referendum programme, Leave campaigner Gove said: “I think it’s time that we said to people who are incapable of acknowledging that they’ve ever got anything wrong: ‘I’m sorry, you’ve had your day.’

    “Unelected, unaccountable elites, I’m afraid it’s time to say ‘You’re fired. We are going to take back control’.”

    But Gove and fellow prominent Leave campaigners Boris Johnson and Gisela Stuart are in no rush to “take back control” now they’ve won the election.

    When he announced his resignation in the coming months in light of the Brexit vote, prime minister David Cameron said it would be the responsibility of the next prime minister to begin the formal process via which a country leaves the EU – which has never happened before – called article 50.

    [​IMG]
    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn watches live footage of David Cameron’s resignation. Toby Melville / Reuters

    Johnson, incidentally the favourite to replace Cameron, agreed, telling journalists: “In voting to leave the EU it’s vital to stress that there’s no need for haste, and as the prime minister has just said nothing will change in the short term except work will begin on how to extricate this country from the supranational system. As the prime minister has said there is no need to invoke article 50.”

    The EU meanwhile wants Britain to start the process to leave, which could take two years to complete, ASAP.

    As for “unelected, unaccountable elites”, whoever replaces Cameron as Tory leader, a contest determined by the party’s MPs and then members, will automatically become prime minister, and will theoretically not need to hold a general election until 2020.

    The economy
    A message from Vote Leave the day before the referendum said:

    After we Vote Leave, there won’t be a sudden change that disrupts the economy. The day after the referendum, nothing changes legally. We will talk to our friends in Europe and discuss the best way to agree a new UK-EU relationship.

    However, the Brexit vote triggered the biggest fall in the pound in history, British-based banks saw a fifth of their value wiped out, the FTSE 100 experienced its biggest fall since the 2008 financial crisis, and currency exchanges closed their websites. There are rumours in the City some banks are planning to relocate to the continent.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    9,113
    Likes Received:
    3,142
    Its like we're getting a warning message of what will happen if we can't smarten up the Trump voters. One of the assholes running the bullshit campaign even looks like Trump.
     
    Poeman likes this.
  20. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2012
    Messages:
    4,128
    Likes Received:
    1,851
    Stop it. You know little and understand even less
    There are rep/dem/election whatever threads, take your BS there.
     

Share This Page