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  1. Dierking

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    link?
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    I stopped after the first sentence because its bullshit. Like we'd all be homeless addicts if we could just find drugs lol. Hell finding drugs is easy now anyway
     
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    So because they might be easy for you or me or Joe down the block it makes it easy for everyone?

    Ok.

    And I dont know how old you are , but my opinion is based on high school aged to mid 20 year olds.

    Obviously 40 year olds arent going to all of the sudden start smoking crack if it becomes legal. But the youth in this country might.
     
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    So in you opinion it couldn't go higher?

    I also think that graph is way off. Does it count weed? Does it count the fact that there are many more types of drugs out these days? Does it count prescription pills addiction , something that wasnt common in the 70s and 89s? Answer those questions before just posting a meaningless graph.
     
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    I just can't help myself. I saw a drug deal happen last night now I'm gonna shoot up some heroin. I thought I had to like work to find that stuff and I was just lazy. Now that I know my neighbor is selling it? time to get fucked up!
     
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    I bet once weed is legal the demand for opiods will go way way down.
     
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    You never really think outside the box do you? I guess the entire world thinks/acts/lives just like you do.

    Also I added this after you replied -

    And I dont know how old you are , but my opinion is based on high school aged to mid 20 year olds.

    Obviously 40 year olds arent going to all of the sudden start smoking crack if it becomes legal. But the youth in this country might.


    Maybe at your age right now you think the way you think , but if you were 18 years old and heroin was as easy to get as a pack of cigarettes , maybe you would've shot up..and even if you wouldn't , that doesnt mean that other 18 year olds wouldn't too.
     
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    The main reason these drugs aren't readily available or legal is because how do you test or control people from driving on the Substance. There isn't a solid road test for any of that yet. Once there is, it wouldn't shock me to start seeing a lot of these drugs government regulated.
     
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    dude as it relates to young people your comments are even more ridiculous. There isn't a place in this country where its easier to score drugs than in high schools and college campuses. When you are under 21 it IS easier to score drugs than it is to buy a 6 pack of miller lite!
     
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    Weed yes. Coke/ecstasy/other party drugs in college, maybe. Harder drugs like heroin? Not so much. Like I said , Im not talking about how addicts get their supply.

    But lets even say that you're right and it is always a phone call away. Dont you think more kids would be tempted to try the harder stuff if it was available without going through the hassle?

    How many reliable/trustworthy drug dealers have you met?
     
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    Read the article I posted about Portugal.
     
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    From my experience, it was the same number you called no matter the flavor you wanted. Thinking some kid has access to x but can't score h is naive i.m.o.
    No offense meant, just my experience
     
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    I dont doubt that some areas are different than others. Def not from what I've seen though.
     
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    I remember reading this story recently:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/21/h...-drop-for-first-time-in-two-decades.html?_r=0


    WASHINGTON — After years of relentless growth, the number of opioid prescriptions in the United States is finally falling, the first sustained drop since OxyContin hit the market in 1996.

    For much of the past two decades, doctors were writing so many prescriptions for the powerful opioid painkillers that, in recent years, there have been enough for every American adult to have a bottle. But for each of the past three years — 2013, 2014 and 2015 — prescriptions have declined, a review of several sources of data shows.

    Experts say the drop is an important early signal that the long-running prescription opioid epidemic may be peaking, that doctors have begun heeding a drumbeat of warnings about the highly addictive nature of the drugs and that federal and state efforts to curb them are having an effect.

    “The culture is changing,” said Dr. Bruce Psaty, a researcher at the University of Washington in Seattle who studies drug safety. “We are on the downside of a curve with opioid prescribing now.”

    IMS Health, an information firm whose data on prescribing is used throughout the health care industry, found a 12 percent decline in opioid prescriptions nationally since a peak in 2012. Another data company, Symphony Health Solutions, reported a drop of about 18 percent during those years. Opioid prescriptions have fallen in 49 states since 2013, according to IMS, with some of the sharpest decreases coming in West Virginia, the state considered the center of the opioid epidemic, and in Texas and Oklahoma. (Only South Dakota showed an increase.)

    So far, fewer prescriptions have not led to fewer deaths: fatal overdoses from opioids have continued to rise, taking more than 28,000 lives in 2014, according to the most recent federal health data. That number includes deaths from both prescription painkillers, like Percocet, Vicodin and OxyContin, and heroin, an illegal opioid whose use has been rising as access to prescription drugs has tightened.

    While experts agree that the decline is real, they differ on what it means for patients. Some say opioid prescribing has been too loose for too long, and that it must be tightened, even if that means extra hurdles for patients in pain.

    “The urgency of the epidemic, its devastating consequences, demands interventions that in some instances may make it harder for some patients to get their medication,” said Dr. Nora Volkow, the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. “We need to set up a system to make sure they are covered. But we cannot continue the prescription practice of opioids the way we have been. We just can’t.”

    Others argue that efforts to rein in prescribing have gone too far and are penalizing patients who take the medicines responsibly and need them for relief.

    “The climate has definitely shifted,” said Dr. Daniel B. Carr, the director of Tufts Medical School’s program on pain research education and policy. “It is now one of reluctance, fear of consequences and encumbrance with administrative hurdles. A lot of patients who are appropriate candidates for opioids have been caught up in that response.”

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    When Portugal decided to decriminalize in 2000, many skeptics assumed that the number of users would skyrocket. That did not happen. With some exceptions, including a marginal increase among adolescents

    Isnt that basically what I said what I think would happen here? Even a marginal increase is an increase. And younger people were what I said was going to be the ones experimenting here too. All legalizing it does is keep addicts out of jail. That doesnt give me much of a drive to see it get legalized.

    Maybe you are right and it would be a good thing here , but I dont think you can compare any country to the USA.
     
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    LMAO!!!!!! Your location is Rutherford, and you believe the only way someone [more-so a white kid] gets drugs is to go into the Projects? The fact that you live in NJ, makes your post have 0 credibility. Let me take you to a nice part of Toms River NJ or Oceanport, or Rumson.
     
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    Heroine is all over the white suburban community. One doesn't need to visit the inner city for it or other hard drugs.

    Cartels are primarily targeting them because they tend to have the most money.

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    I've lived in Rutherford for about a year. Im from Hoboken..and growing up there the only way to get any drug was to go to the projects. It wasnt the hipster central that it is today in the 90s/early 2000s.
     
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