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  1. Yisman

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    Noah was absolutely correct.
     
  2. Falco21

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    This was a very weird game on both sides, but considerably on the Cavs end.

    They missed 28 shots in the paint. That, combined with 10 points from your bench, and you'll never win.

    Amazing that even then, they had a lead late in the third quarter.
     
  3. Falco21

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    Those comments are so full of shit lol

    I visit Cleveland every year. I always try to go to Night Under Fire, drag racing event, with my family. I have a lot of family there.

    Boring city? That's complete horseshit. There is a ton to do there. Big time sports city. People are dedicated to their teams and love the sports atmosphere. Great food and an excellent night life for the 21 and over crowd. A lot of history also.

    How anyone can call it a boring city is beyond me.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

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    You just signed the most lucrative endorsement deal in sports (and probably advertising) history. Your great grandchildren will never even have to think about money. You're a free agent and have your pick of any of the 30 NBA cities to live out the rest of your career. I'd imagine Cleveland ranks just above Minnesota, Detroit and Mikwaukee in terms of destination points.
     
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  5. Falco21

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    No it would rank pretty high if I was born and raised there, my entire family and friends are there, and I want to raise my children in the same area as their father.

    If I were 21 years old and single, yeah I'd choose somewhere else. But as a 31 year old married man with children, I have other priorities in life
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Bro. You can uproot your entire family and build each of them million dollar mansions where ever you choose. He was so nostalgic about Cleveland that he left the first chance he got. He wants nothing to do with being their long term. He feels obligated to try to win them a championship because the sports team are trash and he's their only hope, and it's all generated by media pressure.

    I don't get why you think he's so in love with the city he was dying to leave.
     
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  7. Falco21

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    Lets ignore all the things he's said about his mistake leaving and how he wants to retire in Cleveland, and only focus on the comments he's made in regards to leaving or playing for another team.

    Oh and btw, he has a big show he's starting in August in Cleveland. It's a show about business and building entrepreneurs in Cleveland.

    It would be a fantastic move for him to ditch Cleveland right before his new show is about to air.

    Lol He's not going anywhere. Trust me
     
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    Looking like E.T sitting in a bike basket when he has that towel over his head.




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  9. Falco21

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    one of the best and funniest city smack talk comments a player has ever had. "whoever says they are going on vacation to Cleveland?" hahaha so true.

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    I read your posts and it appears we generally see eye to eye on most everything in regards to LeBron except "the decision." Yes the spectacle, the manner in which is was carried out, was a little pathetic but I don't fault him for actually making the decision to go to Miami because that was the perfect team/atmosphere for him. I think it was a mistake for him to even go back to Cleveland. I am saying this as a Jets fan who hates everything Miami. That team and city was perfect for a dynasty with him. I also read this thing once about "personality" of teams and the personality they had in Miami suited LeBron perfectly. Spoelstra is a damn good coach, especially for young, superstar players. Going to Cleveland was a mistake. I hope he wins one there for his sake but its a loser city so I wont be surprised if it all falls apart with no rings.
     
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    Why does he have to play in the city to be a fixture, or beloved, in his hometown? He can live in the city and do great works for it 6 months out of the year easily.

    That's exhibit 1 why Cleveland is such a loser town! Most cities would be proud to say the best basketball player in the land is a native son who still comes back to do great work in the city. But they'll burn his jerseys there if he ever plays for someone else. God forbid the guy makes a personal decision about where he works. It's stuff like that why Cleveland sucks.
     
  12. Big Cat

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    Did you guys hear that LeBron's lifetime Nike deal is worth over $1 billion? Why doesn't he just take a vet minimum deal to build a monster team? Between the earnings he's already made playing and that contract, his family is set for generations.
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It's tough and I agree in part to the fact that LeBron owes them absolutely nothing. It's tough for him because it was decided for him that he was going to challenge Michael Jordan as the GOAT. Whether he should have or embraced that or not is another story, but he rebelled against it, and ran to build a super team.

    The two biggest problems with it are obviously the spectacle, the not one, not two, not three party, but I just could never fathom why he needed two other max contract players. I fully believe he could've done what he did, especially at that point in the league with just one other guy. Could you imagine him and prime healthy Amare in a pick and roll?

    He's lucky Chris Bosh adjusted his game so well instead of turning into Kevin Love. Love reminds me of the type of scorer on a high school basketball team that's just the biggest guy on the floor (although you can add a jump shot to that mix). Like a 6'10" player that can score because he's 6'10" and that's about all he can do (and I realize I'm discrediting hUm as a player a lot). He's so unathletic without the basketball, and he looks like he's scared to break a finger nail trying to contest a shot. Sometimes it's smart not to foul. Love looks like he doesn't foul because he's scared to.

    But that's who LeBron saw as his next Chris Bosh. He definitively hates himself for thinking that, but he's a bitch for letting that leak around him publicly to the media.
     
  14. JetBlue

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    If if he had been drafted by another team and had never played for the Cavs then perhaps the fans could feel about him, as you suggest, without having to play for the Cavs.

    But he was drafted by the Cavs, and not playing for them isn't just chance but his deliberate decision not to play for them. Of course fans are going to take that personal, that he left them, and are going to judge him and that differently than if he simply had never played for them at all.
     
  15. abyzmul

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    Holy shit, I forgot how stupid Falco is.
     
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  16. Falco21

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    Almost as stupid as your mother.

    Slightly less
     
  17. JetBlue

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    The problem with leaving Cleveland was that they had the best record in the east his final season and by leaving, and particularly leaving to join two other elite players at another destination, was that he was admitting he isn't the type of elite player that a winner can be built around. He needed to join other elite players on their team to win, not have other players join him on his team. Sure, they won but the Heat will always be Wades team. Sure, it was set up for success but it wasn't directly the success propelled by him. I don't fault him for wanting to win but in that manner he voluntarily sacrificed his image and legacy.

    The only way to offset that was to return to Cleveland and finish what he started. But he could have won in Cleveland during that time period he was gone. There was no Heat to stand in his way without him on the Heat. The Celtics were on their last gasp, the Magic were never going to repeat their upset of the Cavs, and the Pacers only looked legit because the east was so weak.

    But he didn't have the fortitude to continue the course with them and wanted to short cut to championship success. And even then it can be argued he underachieved.
     
  18. 101GangGreen101

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    As a Magic fan, I can confirm that was not an upset :cool: ... but back to your Cleveland thing, I don't think the Cavs did enough initially to surround Lebron with young talent or even develop that young that. Add in a shitty HC and shitty FO, there's the reason Lebron left in the first place. I don't think he would've won in CLE, or even replicated the same success.
     
  19. Ubiquitous

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    I'm pretty sure the Warriors bench alone would be a playoff team. Who wins in a Finals game in a blowout having no contribution from your two best players?

    Livingston
    Barbosa
    Iguodala
    Speights/Varejao
    Ezili

    Deepest team I've seen in a long time.
     
  20. JetBlue

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    I agree the organization had failed him to that point, but the threat of "I'll leave if you don't do this" could have changed that. I didn't sympathize for the organization at all with him leaving.
     

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