What makes you think that? What have you seen on the field from Mettenberger gives you the impression he's any more competent than Geno? He's 0-10.
I've seen what Geno Smith is. I think many unproven/underachieving QB's could beat him out in a competition.
The Geno hate on this board is beyond comical. And this is coming from someone who doesnt want to see him as our QB, but to think Mettenberger is better than him is just absurd.
Yet you haven't seen what Mettenburger is? Who I may add was just cut because the team that drafted him didn't even think he was a capable backup entering his 3rd season.
The way it hurts is that you only have so many reps to look at QB's in the off-season. If you were allowed to work them for the next 4 months non-stop then maybe it would make sense to have 4 or 5 serious candidates in house that you're looking at. The CBA doesn't allow that. You have only so many workouts in pads and sessions available. If Mettenberger was clearly better than some of the options the Jets have the situation would be simple if the Jets liked him: cut somebody and bring him in for a serious look as part of the off-season evaluation process. The problem is that he's not clearly better than the current options. Geno is already under contract for next season. Unless the Jets are ready to move on from him decisively at this point there's no reason to bring in another young guy to evaluate, with Petty and Hackenberg already in house. If the Jets felt Petty wasn't likely to be anything they could cut Petty instead but it's unlikely they've reached that determination after one season. If Nick Foles became available then maybe you cut Geno and bring Foles on as the bridge to the younger guys. If Fitzpatrick signed maybe the Jets do that also. But for Mettenberger there's no point because he isn't any more likely to be the Jets answer next year than Geno is and he doesn't have better long-term potential either. You can only have so many developmental QB's you're looking at and right now the Jets have 2 plus Geno to potentially start for them at the beginning of next season and prevent them from having to put somebody else on the field. Mettenberger's injury history isn't very good either. You don't want him to be the guy you're using as the stopgap starter at the beginning of the season because he's more likely to go down than Geno, having suffered season ending injuries in 2013 and 2014.
Titans aren't cutting this guy for no reason Teams don't get rid of talented young QBs unless there's a reason...even if you have a franchise QB already
It's understandable that people are reluctant to see Geno behind center given his career record to date. I agree that fantasizing that Mettenberger is somehow clearly better is comical.
There are so many different reasons the Titans might be cutting Mettenberger at this point but none of them are likely to make him a good candidate for the Jets. It might just come down to the fact that the Titans want a reliable guy behind Mariota so if they decide to sit him during a period when they're worried about his physical health they don't have to worry as much about the guy behind him going down suddenly and forcing their hand.
Well if he had any value around the league he would have been traded....also if they were that worried about injuries to both players they would have another vet QB on board and keep him Basically if Mettenberger was considered an asset (on field play and/or trade value) they wouldn't just dump him like this
You dont know what happened behind the scenes with that situation. Maybe Mettenberger's agent is a real hardass and forced his way out of there. Would make sense. Cassel is a capable backup though. Something Mettenberger hasnt proven to be yet. But Cassel is also a finished product. Not so sure Mettenberger is.
I'm no talent evaluator but I liked mettenberger He reminded me of a poor man Roethlisberger Remember Big Ben was strictly s game manager his first couple years
The NFL could use a minor league. That way the Jets could reach a deal with a guy like Mettenberger, assign him to the AAA Schenectady Jets, then he can get his reps and training without creating a log jam at the position in the NFL. They could start training camp with Hack, Mett, Geno, Petty and Fitzpatrick. Best 2 on the active roster. 3rd best gets a spot as the inactive QB and players 4 &5 get Schenectady Jets.
No team is dumping someone in Mett's shoes because of an agent...they are trading him if that's the case Cassel is terrible also...did he even win a game with Dallas last year?
Agreed that Cassel is terrible. But why are we looking at the Titans like they are the most well run organization? Here's a thought , maybe they made a mistake in this decision. Another one just like they've been doing for nearly 2 decades. They tried to trade for Mettenberger but found no suitors. Why would a team trade for him , even if its a 6th or 7th rounder , when it was common knowledge he would be released. Also look around the league , how many other teams besides us (without Fitz) will go into training camp having an open QB competition? 1? Maybe 2?
Titans could have easily made a mistake, wouldn't be the first But my point still stands that a young and talented QB with value very rarely gets cut for no reason like this...more than likely he's doing things wrong behind the scenes and/or just isn't looked at as a guy with a positive future I don't even hate Mettenberger but he's not a better option than Geno all things considered, not even close People on here tend to look at Geno's bad parts of his game most of which can be somewhat improved....and forget his positives
Mettenberger was definetly a poor man out there on the field. As for the comparison...The only thing those two have in common are there last names running 'burgers' in them
In fairness to that 0-10 he did QB for the Titans. I mean Mariota was 3-9 and he was 2nd pick of the draft. I've always said, and always will say, that a QB record is an illusion. Win loss is a Team stat in football, more so than any other sport. A Good QB does more to help your team win, but no QB (regardless of how good) can make a bad team good....A bad QB can make a good team bad though, but simply because they touch the ball more than any other player on the field and commit more turnovers. But the Titans haven't been a good team, they've been a bad team for a while now....a very bad team. Bring him in to camp on a cheap contract, let him compete and if he sticks he sticks.
The biggest problem I have with Geno is that his positives always follows with a negative. Two times in his career I thought that he turned a corner and was going to be a really good QB for us. First one was his rookie year in Atlanta. Monday night game , we went in as huge underdogs and he killed it for us. The next week we had a home game against a winless Steelers team and he was awful. Second time was in 2014 against Green Bay. The Sheldon-timeout game. He looked elite. And even though we lost I felt really good about the rest of the season. Well that all came to an end the following week in another Monday night game , at home against the Bears. First pass of the game went for a pick 6 and that was the beginning of the end for him. So basically if he starts for us this year , I'm always going to expect something bad to happen after he does something good. Because the odds of him putting together back to back good games are very low.
That's fair but the wild inconsistency could also be part of him just being a young QB transitioning from an air raid offense in college to the pro game It's funny but the last game he started for us he had a perfect game by QBR standards...I know it was just a glorified exhibition game but it was still against pros Maybe I'm just an optimist by nature, but I feel like Geno with a smart offensive staff and a year to sit back and learn could prove to help him immensely I don't want to make this thread about Geno like every other one but Mettenberger is not a better choice IMO. He's probably better off with an established QB to learn as a developmental guy
There's no real way to setup a minor league for football. The casualty rate is too high among football players for the NFL to take on the role of providing for even 3x the number of current active players and prospects. NFL Europe folded because the economics just weren't there. It's hard too imagine that a domestic minor league would do much better. College football is under a huge amount of pressure from the players at this point already. What would make some sense would be a football academy designed to train players and coaches how to play and coach the game more safely and professionally. You could have it work on the JuCo principle, accepting players who wanted to transfer out of their current schools for academic and other reasons and allowing them to continue learning how to play football without the attendant pressures of keeping up a normal academic routine. You could have it's graduates (2 year program) eligible for the NFL draft if they were at least 3 years out of high school like the current standard. You could have it play as an independent and use it as a testing ground for new training techniques designed to make the game safer for the players and less costly for the owners as a result. You could have an enrollment of several hundred people, with eligibility requirements that included at least one year of college experience elsewhere or two years of work experience elsewhere and a minimum age of 19 years old. It would be a competitive entry system with candidates evaluated similarly to the panel that evaluates the NFL draft process with the panel deciding whether somebody belonged in the program. You could split the student body into 3 or 4 groups for training purposes and then draw an Academy team out of the groups to compete. Nobody would come into the Academy knowing they had a path to the field so they'd all have to think about the choice carefully before committing. It would be a great way to train players to play the game right and while most players would not continue as players in the NFL you'd design the program to give them real-life training and structure so the washout process was no worse than the normal college washout process and hopefully better. Nobody would attend the Academy without the intention of being involved in professional football in some capacity and so you'd need to wash people out fairly quickly to prevent them from losing valuable time in getting their lives moving forward. Players who had an interest in coaching might get a chance to look at that earlier in their lives when it began to dawn on them that a future as a player was unlikely. The expenses would be significant but you could get the students normal insurance and add supplemental insurance to cover the inevitable health problems over time. People who could have chosen to attend the academy as opposed to following the path that took them to the NFL include Aaron Rodgers (1 year at Cal after JuCo), Joe Flacco (transferred to Delaware from Pitt), Russell Wilson (3 schools) and Cam Newton (1 year at Auburn after disciplinary problems elsewhere). Jets who could have tried to get in include Laveranues Coles (suspended from Florida State after his Junior year) and Snacks (dropped out of college his first year). All of these players could still choose the path they eventually took even if the Academy denied them admission. Players could be admitted under probationary conditions based on talent vs past issues. The NFL would get a much better evaluation of behavioral issues in some cases if they chose to take on candidates like Cam Newton and Laveranues Coles. It would be a developmental place for good prospects that were not good fits in the normal college system. It would be a great laboratory for the NFL to make the changes that are necessary and that will continue to be necessary moving forward.
