The way that I read the CT law was an individual just needs to be accused and will then have to turn over their guns. That kind of goes against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing we have here in this country.
Isn't there some court procedure involved to get a temporary restraining order? I'm not familiar with these things, thankfully.
I'm sure that it varies state by state. But I believe in general it takes nothing more than making an accusation.
Maybe processing some paperwork - but in general they are granted before any sort of investigation is done.
if someone is a victim of domestic violence, provides evidence of that in court and a judge agrees they're in danger of the attacker there's nothing wrong with playing it safe with the attackers guns IMO. Violent people with guns isn't a good thing. These are the scumbags that give law abiding gunners a bad name. if false accusations happen the accuser will be criminally liable, won't they? the person being accused will have their day in court and if they aren't found guilty they get their guns back.
Probably not and nor should they. It'll just discourage real victims of abuse from reporting as if they can't prove it, they'll get shamed. That's not how it works ever. It's nearly impossible to get your stuff back once the cops seize it.
In Florida I have never seen a DVI that did not have a provision for the party to surrender their firearms. Just did a search and found out why. Any rational person can see why this would be a good thing. FLORIDA FIREARMS LEGAL SUMMARY FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES STATE AND FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS Federal Law: o 18 U.S.C. §922(g)(8): It is unlawful for a person who has a Protection Order (Florida’s Final Judgment of Injunction for Protection Against Domestic Violence meets federal definition of “Protection Order”) in effect against him/her to possess a firearm and/or ammunition, ship or transport same in interstate commerce, receive any which have been so shipped or transported, or have seized firearms returned. The respondent must be an “intimate partner” and must have had due process (proper notice of hearing and opportunity to be heard). o 18 U.S.C. §921(a)(32) An “intimate partner” is a spouse, former spouse, co-parent, or individual who lives or has lived together with the victim. o 18 U.S.C. §925 An official use exemption exists for law enforcement officers and active military, subject to a protection order, which has been interpreted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm (ATF) to only allow “on-duty” possession of service weapons. o 18 U.S.C.§922(g)(9)”Lautenberg Amendment”A person convicted of a “qualifying” (right to counsel, jury trial, and conviction not expunged) misdemeanor crime of domestic violence is permanently disqualified from possessing a firearm or ammunition. Defendant must be spouse, former spouse, co-parent, parent or guardian of victim, person who cohabits or has cohabited as spouse, parent or guardian, or a person similarly situated. No “official use” exemption is applicable. o 18 U.S.C. §921(B)(ii) The court may retain firearm prohibition in any order of expungement of conviction. o 18 U.S.C. §924(a)(2) All federal violations are punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment and/or a $250,000.00 fine. Florida Law: o §790.233(1), Florida Statutes, prohibits a person subject to a current Permanent Injunction Against Domestic Violence under §741.30 from possessing firearms or ammunition. o §790.233(3), Florida Statutes, provides an “official use” exemption for law enforcement officers subject to an injunction, consistent with federal law, subject to the policy of the employing agency. o §790.06(2)(l), Florida Statutes, prohibits the issuance of a license to carry a concealed weapon or firearm to a person subject to a current injunction for protection against domestic or repeat violence. o §790.06(2)(K), Florida Statutes, prohibits issuance of a license to carry a concealed weapon or firearm to a person who has had an adjudication withheld or sentence suspended for a felony or misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, and three years has not expired from the completion of probation or other conditions. o §790.233(2), Florida Statutes, violations constitute a first degree misdemeanor. o §790.065(2), Florida Statutes, requires FDLE to perform a records check for federal and state disqualifiers such as injunctions and convictions prior to authorizing the purchase of a firearm. FLORIDA FIREARMS CHECKLIST FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES State and federal laws prohibit possession of firearms and ammunition by respondents who have had a final injunction entered against them. This mandate constitutes a primary safety provision of domestic violence civil injunctions. The courts, law enforcement agencies, and other concerned stakeholders should collaborate to resolve issues and create protocols for the surrender, storage, and return of weapons and ammunition. SURRENDER □ If a temporary injunction so provides, upon service of the injunction, respondent must, surrender all firearms, ammunition to the police, obtain a receipt of surrender, and file the receipt with the court. §790.233(1), Florida Statutes, and 18 U.S.C. §922(g)(8). □ If a respondent fails to appear in court after being served with a temporary injunction and petitioner testifies that respondent currently has a gun in his/her possession, the court may issue a separate order requiring the respondent to surrender the firearm/ammunition. □ Firearm surrender is generally mandated in domestic violence cases; however, the court may order surrender of guns and ammunition in repeat, dating and sexual violence cases when there is a nexus between the firearm and the alleged violence. □ Orders should specify respondent has to surrender weapons within 48 hours or provide an affidavit saying he or she does not have any weapons or ammunition. □ Orders should note that the weapons and/or ammunition will be destroyed after 60 days from date order is vacated or expires if not claimed by the respondent. The respondent should sign a notice to this effect. □ The court should specifically address firearms at the final hearing and notify the respondent of restrictions. □ The court should inform respondents about the law regarding “possession” of a firearm and “access” to a firearm when living with others who own firearms. □ All respondents should complete a sworn statement of possession/surrender of firearm prior to commencement of final hearing attesting to whether they have in the past six months owned or possessed any firearms, ammunition and/or concealed weapons permit. Respondent should be required to provide proof of surrender if a receipt was not previously filed with the court. □ Court may make an “on the record” inquiry to verify whether respondent surrendered the firearm and/or ammunition and review any supporting documentation provided by respondent. □ Respondent may sell or transfer all firearms and ammunition to a third party not residing with the respondent, provided that the third party is pre-approved by the court.A notarized copy of an affidavit evidencing such transfer should be filed with the court, and any concealed weapon permit should be surrendered to the police. □ If respondent is not in possession of firearm and/or ammunition, no further action is required by court. □ If there has not been full compliance, the court may enter a separate order compelling respondent to comply with the surrender within 24 hours and provide proof by fax to the court. If the respondent has still not complied, the court may commence indirect criminal contempt procedures by entering an Order to Show Cause. RETURN OF FIREARMS/AMMUNITION □ After entry of a final judgment after hearing, a Motion for Request of Return of Firearms and Other Property should be required and a hearing should be held before the court enters any modification. The petitioner should have an opportunity to give testimony on this issue of weapons return. □ When a protection order expires or is dismissed, a respondent can file for a return of property and attest that he/she qualifies under 18 U.S.C. §922(g) and 18 U.S.C. §922(n), and Florida law in thathe/she: v Has not been found guilty of a felony or misdemeanor crime of domestic violence; v There is no final protection order in effect in Florida or any other state; v No forfeiture action is pending in another court; v has never been adjudicated mentally defective or been committed to a mental institution; v Is legally and lawfully in the United States; v Has never been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Services; v Has never renounced US citizenship; v Is not currently under indictment for any felony; v Has not been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor crime of domestic violence; v Has not been on probation or pretrial diversion, or had adjudication withheld for an act of domestic violence in Florida within the past 3 years; and v There is no other legal impediment to his/her owning or possessing a firearm. □ The petitioner should be notified that respondent has requested return of firearms and is allowed 15 days to file any objections. □ At the expiration of 15 days, the case is set for hearing on the request for return of property. The court determines if the firearm/ammunition may be legally returned by conducting an FCIC/NCIC check on the respondent and reviewing the sworn motion and all supporting documents prior to signing the order for return.
Gun laws are already discriminatory because they have a disparate impact on non-whites and result in punishment of non-whites for illegal firearms at greater rates than whites. Only racists would want stricter gun laws and contribute further to the mass incarceration of non-whites.
What are you, twelve years old with the infantile name calling? You've had plenty of opportunity to come up with something of substance but have instead chosen to make personal attacks. Because you have nothing to show. Admit it!
