Hackenberg Film Room

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  1. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Hack is far more advanced on the mental part of the game than the previous young QBs we rushed in. He'll probably the first to transition to better surrounding talent from college to the pros.
     
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  2. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Wow that's crazy. I always thought Sanchez was the pick 6 king. Didn't realize Geno threw so many. You get so aggravated with the self inflicted sacks that you forget about the other disastrous parts of his game.
     
  3. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    This is not college. It's not a matter of preference or seniority. It's a matter of who is better.
     
  4. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so now they were bad college QBs.
     
  5. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Wait, what? You are slow to the party mate.
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Namath was before my time but I find it hard to believe he wasn't a good college QB. You're the first person I've heard make this argument. This is from his wiki:

    Between 1962 and 1964, Namath played for the Alabama Crimson Tide program under head coach Paul "Bear" Bryant and his offensive coordinator Howard Schnellenberger. A year after being suspended for the final two games of the season,[12] Namath led the Tide to a national championship in 1964. During his time at Alabama, Namath led the team to a 29–4 record over three seasons.

    Bryant called Namath "the greatest athlete I ever coached".[13]
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    He set every single statistical passing record they had at Alabama and won a national title
     
  8. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Well, look around, you are on a NYJ forum. I'm sure it's not incredibly popular to shame the one guy who actually helped, kinda, sorta, win a super bowl.
     
  9. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    I love watching him throw on the run. Is accuracy is better moving at times than when he gets his feet stuck in the mud.

    Conclusion- if he keeps his feet moving his accuracy should be off the charts. Then it becomes a matter of touch and timing.
     
  10. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Hardly slow; instead quick to point out that you (in your own words) "gave examples of bad college QBs" which included Namath.
     
  11. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    I don't care if this was a Dolphins board. Saying Namath "was a bad college QB" is retarded. Others posted facts to prove it.
     
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    Guys, Namath didn't go to OSU. He musta been a scrub
     
  13. JStokes

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    He was no Art Schlichter.

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  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    He didn't go to OSU that means he can read and write.
     
  15. Big Cat

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    The change in footwork philosophy definitely looks uncomfortable for him, his feet are much less active in his last 2 seasons almost as if he's unsure what to do with them. However, I think it's lazy/inaccurate to blame all of his accuracy problems on having a different foot back pre-snap. He consistently misses open targets in the short game and exhibits a lack of touch on check downs, either spiking them at the RB's feet or throwing them at an uncatchable speed. I don't believe these issues could all be caused by which foot is back in his stance.

    I think there's a fundamental flaw in his throwing motion that needs to be reworked. On short passes, he has a tendency to not drive his front shoulder into the throw. His hips and core don't participate in the process whatsoever, potentially leading to his inaccuracy issues. This seems to be limited to short passes; when he knows he needs to drive the ball downfield he integrates his whole body more. His accuracy looks much better to me beyond 15 yards, indicating that this sloppiness on "easy" throws may be the culprit.

    I took this screengrab from a game to illustrate my point:

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    Compare:

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    Hack may be a rare instance where a rookie QB needs to sit because of a mechanical rework rather than not being mentally ready for the NFL.
     
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    Big Cat Well-Known Member

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    Even take Geno for example. This is one thing he's very good at: shoulder driving through the target with the front elbow tucked in. Makes Hack look lackadaisical in comparison.

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  17. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Given the choice between Geno, Petty and Hack, I'm starting the guy that has best grasp of the mental part of the game. If that's Hack, then that's who I would roll with regardless of mechanical issues leading to inaccuracy. Fitz wasn't very accurate last year either.
     
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  18. Big Cat

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    Taking a year to fix Hack's throwing mechanics could be the difference between him being a franchise QB or getting run out of town like every other guy we've drafted. It's very hard to fix stuff like this when you're more focused on being the starting quarterback each week. There are very few opportunities to get it done, and a redshirt year might be the only chance he gets to do it. He's only 21, no harm done in giving him a year to solely focus on getting his footwork and mechanics where they need to be and then letting him begin his career at 22. Rodgers completely changed his throwing motion in a couple years on the bench.
     
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    You can't put a QB out there with big time mechanic issues. Let him fix his mechanics without getting destroyed by defenders, could be too much to grasp, the QB will regress...
     
  20. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    It looks like that was against Buffalo, he threw that one for an interception.

    Good form though!
     
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