I hate these picks because they didn't pick who I wanted, oh my God I'm a psychic and no these picks won't work out, I hate everything when it doesn't go my way Y'all need to cut it
I'm behind the pick because I'm a Jets fan. What's your excuse for trashing it repeatedly? If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. I'd rather support it and deal with the aftermath if it doesn't work out than spend a lot of time and effort trashing it so i can be right in the end if it doesn't work out. It's not like the Jets traded up to make the deal or spent the 20 on it because they were sure.
Let me put this into some perspective you super NFL coaches seem to ignore.... Imagine you are at your job...you absolutely click with everything going on. It fits in your wheel house....you were "hired" to fit a way of doing business. You were sooooo good that they gave you a raise! Then they reassigned your supervisor (O'Brien left), four of your co-workers left to another job (he lost 4 of 5 lineman) and they replaced them with 4 raw people who weren't any good. So, the way you do business...the one thing you were brought in for was changed...and then they changed all the people around you...yes, that was what I was inferring...you'd suck too. Oh, and you aren't taking an ass whippin' every time your "co-workers" fail to stop the damn rush. I have to ask. What the fuck in the Temple game....how in the holy hell can 6 guys not block 2 and he get sacked in THREE seconds? I think we may have struck gold after spending ALL day researching this kid.
This is so wrong in so many ways. How can the number two pick get three hundred more comments than the number one pick when the first had a full day longer to capture them?
Jets and QB's. The position has been such a long traumatic experience for the franchise and fans and the current pick extends the trauma until this summer but probably for another two years at least. That history would have been a terrible reason to choose not to take Hackenberg if the current brain trust sees something they like in him but it was going to be a painful pick for everybody off the bat.
No, that's excuses, and the GM's here know that better than us, and certainly better than Mac and his entire fukn staff. Never mind the whole thing came crumbling down around him and the kid still had the courage to stay committed. As if Mac just made of a bunch of excuses for a guy that sucks otherwise, doesn't know wtf he's doing, and just decided to make a panic move. That mentality by some of these GM's proves they know little about team sports, and how important a solid foundation is for a kid. He had no help after O'Brien left Hopefully that whole experience made the kid stronger. 'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'
Yep. The trauma runs deep, and Mac and Co. got a taste of the deep seeded ill feelings around it all after they pulled that pick. I like the way TB just put his head down ready to grind, go to work. They spent some money to make the team competitive, and now they're trying to rebuild it.
He will be a franchise QB for the Jets and take them to the Superbowl. I'm psyched about this pick! He's the next Peyton Manning.
Watching those Temple clips I kept thinking "how come Wayne F. Hunter is wearing 73 and playing left tackle for Penn?!" Not "playing", STAYING at left tackle is more like it
At first I didn't buy the scheme change excuse, but now I'm starting to think there is some merit to it. He not only had to change schemes, they had him change his footwork too. I can see how that can screw you up when you compound that with everything else.
I've made no secret that after the first two QB's, maybe if you include Paxton, Hackenberg was my favorite QB. Would I have taken Paxton over Hackenberg? Yes, but only if they both were available in the 2nd. IMHO neither was worth a first round pick. That said, here's why I prefer Hackenberg and why I'm okay with him being taken in the 2nd, though I would have preferred the third but honestly I don't think he gets to #20 in the 3rd. Hackenberg under O'Brien and a pro styled offense that gave Hack a lot of options and responsibility at the line Hack excelled in his first season. He reads defenses, recognizes coverages on the pre-read makes the right adjustments much more frequently than not and he took his snaps from under center. O'Brien left, his best receivers left and his O-line went to hell with a left tackle that I'm pretty sure my 53 year old body could probably do almost a better job blocking in pass coverage, and trust me that isn't saying much. He got sacked, ALOT. But it's not like the vast majority of those sacks were him sitting back in the pocket too long. Half the time it felt like the defenders were wrapping him up before he even had the ball in his hands from the snap, exaggeration yes, but not by much. He undoubtedly became skittish and shellshocked. Then there was the Coaching. You have a kid who was being successful and you have a new coach come in and change the footwork in probably the worst way you could for a QB with his tools, they tried to turn him in to a pistol QB and that just wasn't and isn't his forte. If you watch his footage from his first season he's not missing many passes on the short game, they changed his footwork and he's missing everything from the shotgun and pistol. This, I truly believe, is the result of truly bad coaching. Now that said, some of it does fall on Hackenberg, but a QB's job (especially in college) is to do what the coach says, even if what the coach says goes against your strengths. But it's also the responsibility of the QB to adjust. But two HC's and I think 3 OC's over 3 seasons didn't help him and did him no favors in his development in college. With the Jets he won't be asked to run the Pistol, at least not very often if at all. On the flip side he's a prototypical NFL QB drop back passer. He had probably the 2nd strongest arm in the draft, came from a pro style offense and he's smart. Worst case scenario he's Sanchez without the turnovers (and not costing a first round pick), best case scenario he's the teams QB for the next 15 years and the best QB since Namath.
Jeeze if he's this much of a junkie I'm really excited. http://nypost.com/2016/04/30/inside-christian-hackenbergs-exhaustive-nfl-prep-hes-a-slam-dunk/
Really nice knowledgeable, informed, intelligent post. Gotta keep trying for a QB. Definitely starting to like him more than Lynch too.
Must have been fucking hard for him playing not one, but TWO WFHs at BOTH tackle spots during the entire season. No QB will look half decent with that.
