No talent? He had one of the best young RB's in the country last year and his WR's and D Line were the only thing that kept them in any games. Clearly you're talking out of your ass now.
we will never have the cast to compete for a superbowl blowing day 1 and 2 picks. we drafted a qb last year, and then another this year. that basically says the team isnt high on a guy they draft last year who hasnt even taken an nfl snap. just because you need to find a franchise qb doesnt mean you need to make poor decisions that prevent you from getting better elsewhere.
Jets still want Fitz....... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/29/report-jets-still-want-ryan-fitzpatrick/
No reason to think the jet regime doesn't know their business. As far as I know no one on this board has worked this player out. Strong opinions by amateurs make no impresion. Nor should they.
No, I completely understand that. I trust this regime and I watched Hackenberg play. I think he is worth the risk.
Clearly you are. That team had no talent. Coaching was god awful on top of it. Dont confuse the fact that you're pissed for actual talent scouting. Hes gonna sot and learn so its perfectly fine. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Ok this is gonna be hard, but Im going to give Mac and Bowles the benefit as much as we might not want to admit it but not signing Fitz has possibly put us in this predicament. I just don't see us spending a round 2 pick on a QB this high, maybe some where else but certainly not this high . Let me start by saying i don't like Hackenberg much and i like to think of myself as a person who follows the draft closely. Im not going to pretend that I'm always right on players and its a lot easier to spread out opinions over the internet vs than actually have your face and name on it. I hope I'm dead wrong on him and obviously the Jets see a lot of things they like. Coaching by far is extremely important in football vs any other sport, if indeed the coaches and FO feel that within time that Hackenberg can be fixed then I'm for the pick. Football more than any sport u see random guys from all rounds in the draft succeeding once they have been drafted and put in different situations. QB is the most important position in sports and it should have a premium placed on it more than other positions. Look at what LA and PHI just gave to get there QB, THE WORLD. And it still might not matter after the fact, just ask Washington. As much as the Hackenberg hate has maybe blinded some from maybe properly evaluating him, i think everyone should give the kid a chance given the extremely horrible situation he was in at Penn State. Everything you heard was real, no talent was around him due to the sanctions, poor coaching is real thats why u see some 5 star prospects fail time and time again. For all the Petty lovers, sorry he was a 4th round pick, Hack has more talent he isn't better
I agree, and I think Hackenberg has some awful habits in terms of his mechanics. Right now it does suggest he will be a bust, but who knows. Gotta trust Gailey.
if thats the case i really i dont want a guy whose play is so reliant on talent... i want someone who raises the play of those around him. not someone who turtles when the talent around him isnt up to par
Stay away from Ohio State players and Penn St. players. Blair Thomas, A-A-ron Maybin, Todd Blackledge, Curtis Ennis, Courtney Brown, Ki-Jana Carter
Why does Hackeburg have a high ceiling? What does that even mean? Northwestern had more talent than Penn St? I hope so because they obiliterated him twice.
I think it is pretty obvious what Macc and Bowles and Chan are all about. They want smart, focused guys at the key positions. Geno is gone. They will resign Fitz and see which of Petty or Hack can develop into the next QB. In the first round they took a smart, quick, versatile guy to play inside, cover TEs, implement Bowles schemes. I like what they are building. Will it all work out? Who knows. But they have a plan and I am on board. Lets see what the 3rd round brings.
Yeah you're clueless. Barkley and one of the best D lines in the country is no talent? Don't blame his awful accuracy and shitty play on the coaching staff. Stick to checkers. You can apologize to me when he's never started a full NFL season in the next 5 years. Dope.
